The deceased in the photo seen by Dr. Ray Boeche are not prisoners.

background knowledge
　Pentagon team dies of mysterious skull entrapment during channeling experiment with ET (2020-02-28)


　The information from the DoD scientists relied upon by Nick Redfern and Jacques Vallee is due to a disturbance operation. (2021-02-20)

Preface
- The following is a new part of the interview video I am going to discuss.

　　- Ray Boeche speculated that the victim (i.e., the test subject) may have been a prisoner.
　　- In response, Erica Luke said, "I think the prisoner angle is probably a good one, could be."


My view
- As usual, Erica Luke is thoughtless.

- Since the photo in question was a DoD fabrication in the first place, there is no possibility that the test subjects were prisoners. But even assuming, by a wide margin, that the photo in question is what the DoD scientists claim it is (i.e., not a fabrication), there is no possibility that the test subjects were prisoner.

- Because it was the first experiment by a public institution to attempt psychic communication between ETs and humans. Later, when the test subjects were murdered, the DoD scientist came to Ray Boeche for advice, realizing the frightening possibility that IT was not an ET, but a demonic entity. This is the story of how the DoD scientist told Ray Boeche about the incident.

- In the first experiment of mental exchange between ETs and humans, there is no way that a criminal would be chosen as the representative of the human side. Since this is an experiment in mental exchange, it is assumed that ETs can read the minds of their opponents. No one in charge of the DoD can tolerate a situation in which ETs can see that humans are evil criminal beings.

- There is no way that we would entrust a prisoner of war with such a major role in our mental exchange with ETs. It would be like entrusting an impostor to interpret at a meeting with a foreign dignitary.

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things i've ever run across
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they
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showed me some photos
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of experiments experimental
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participants
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in this
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uh two men and a woman who had been
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killed allegedly at a distance
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uh in a laboratory setting
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the they were all three were in what
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appeared to be the same dentist's chair
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very dentist-like chair
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uh
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monitoring equipment in the background
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uh one had allegedly been
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suffocated one had been killed by
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a distance induced heart attack
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and the other had been killed by having
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the occipital area of their skull
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crushed
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at a distance
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wow
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was not explained to me
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whether these were volunteers whether
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they were prisoners
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no idea
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um
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i think the prisoner angle is probably a
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good one
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could be
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could be
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one of the last things that they said
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was because they knew about my work with
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the whole rental ship forest bentwaters
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incident
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was that that was part of this
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program and that the object that was
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seen
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at bentwaters
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uh in rendelsham forest
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was
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a holographic projection
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that was
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capable of leaving physical traces
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wow
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and that
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some of the people who were present
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during that were more interested in the
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reaction of the servicemen
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than they were in the events
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um
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and that's where that's kind of where we
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left it we we were in con i had two one
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other face-to-face meeting
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uh another instance where they just
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handed a disc back to me a floppy disk
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um
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with some information for linda howe
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um
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but essentially that was that was it if
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if anyone's interested you can go to
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academia.edu
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and you'll find uh the entire
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story of what took place
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as well as the
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conversations if you will
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between linda howe and these two
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gentlemen that she termed the writers
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um
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it's it's fascinating stuff
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i still to this day i mean i
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when i first
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made mention of this publicly
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i said i don't i don't know that i i
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have no way to judge whether this is
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true false
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i i don't know it's it's a fantastic
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story
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but
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these two guys are who they say they are
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the reason they came to me was because
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of my background in
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ufo and paranormal research
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and my
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training as a theologian and a pastor
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so
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they felt comfortable talking to me they
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said because
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they knew they could ask me to invoke
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the sanctity of the confessional
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and not
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not reveal who they are
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um
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and i
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agree to that
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um
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again i don't
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i still can't vouch for the accuracy of
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it
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but
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the interesting thing when nick redfern
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ran across
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this research
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in 2007 i believe got a hold of me
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he was able to dig down and he was able
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to actually confirm
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the majority of what i was told
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so that makes me
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that takes me another step closer to
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saying yeah there's something going on
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here
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um
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i never heard the term collins elite
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they never used that term
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uh the first time i encountered that was
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from nick when he told me about his
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research
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um
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i believe they're
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i believe they're probably still active
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not necessarily the two the gentleman
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that spoke with me
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uh but this group
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i think
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i think lou elizondo
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has at least in a roundabout way
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referenced this group when he's talked
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about the
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forces at the pentagon right that say
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you can't deal with this because these
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are demons




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(2022-01-05)