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Clifford Stone の証言 : 軍で UFO 回収の任務に従事した

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Clifford Stone の 80分間に及ぶ証言動画を AI で整理した。

Clifford Stone は、何の証拠（例："DD Form 214" の類）も提示せず、具体的に検証可能な事柄は何一つ述べていない点に注目。

それもあって、著名な UFO 研究者/マニア は彼をまともに取り上げていない。対談もしないし、インタビューにも呼ばないし、彼の証言に言及するすることもまずない。

彼の相手をするのは C2C の George Noory とか、Gaia TV とか、Linda Moulton Howe といった「選り好みせず何でも食らう」雑食性の UFO 関係者。

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クリフォード・ストーン曹長の証言：UFOと地球外生命体​

この証言録では、退役軍曹クリフォード・ストーン氏が、自身のUFOと地球外生命体との長年にわたる関わりを語っています。彼は、極秘のUFO墜落現場回収任務に従事し、地球外生命体の遺体や生存者との遭遇、さらには彼らの医療ニーズに対応するための特殊なプロトコルについても述べています。ストーン氏はまた、政府がこれらの情報を隠蔽していること、そしてUFOの推進システムが地球の兵器では貫通できない真空のバリアに守られていることについて言及しています。彼は、政府が市民に真実を明かす必要性を強調し、地球外生命体との相互作用は広く行われているが、多くの人々がそれを認識していないと主張しています。

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詳細ブリーフィング資料

クリフォード・ストーン曹長の証言に見るUFOと地球外生命体の主要テーマ​

本ブリーフィング資料は、クリフォード・ストーン曹長（退役）の証言に基づき、UFOと地球外生命体に関する主要なテーマ、重要な情報、およびその影響についてまとめたものである。ストーン曹長の個人的な経験と、彼が軍務中に遭遇したとされる出来事が中心となる。

  1. UFOの特性と技術

ストーン曹長は、UFOが持つ驚異的な技術について具体的に言及している。

  • 防御システム： UFOは「機体の周囲に完璧な0.25インチの真空層」を生成することで、あらゆる既知の兵器による貫通を不可能にしている。「人間が知るいかなる兵器もそれを貫通できない。」この真空層は、音速を超えてもソニックブームが発生しない理由でもある。

  • 推進システム： UFOの推進システムは、初期に大量の放射線を放出するが、「数分で消散する」と説明されている。ストーン曹長がUFOの近くで放射線測定を行った際に、数値が上下したことの理由としてこれを挙げている。

  • 墜落と残骸の回収： UFOの墜落は「非常に稀」であるとされているが、「残骸や置き去りにされた物品の回収はそれほど珍しくない。実際、かなり一般的だ。」と述べている。

  • 形状と内部： ストーン曹長が目撃した墜落したUFOは「かかと型」で、左右に「腎臓のような形をした開口部」があったという。

  1. 地球外生命体（ET）との遭遇と交流

ストーン曹長の証言は、ETとの直接的な接触と、それに対する人間の反応に深く踏み込んでいる。

  • ETの身体的特徴と感情： ストーン曹長が「コロナ（K）」と呼ぶETは、身長約4.5～5フィートで、「緑がかった色合い」を持ち、頭蓋骨が大きく頬が小さい独特の顔立ちをしている。目は「涙のしずくのようで、涙のしずくの頂点が内側に向かって少し傾いている」。鼻と口はそれぞれ小さな「切れ込み」として描写されている。彼らは人間と同様に感情を抱き、「彼らは本当に恐怖を感じる」ことがある。

  • ETの社会と文化： ETは「家族状況」についても人間と会話することがあり、遺伝的に創造された存在というよりは、人間と同様に「愛」や「絆」を持つ存在であることが示唆されている。彼らの社会は「共同体の共通の利益のために働く」という点で人間社会とは異なり、「蜂の巣のよう」と形容される。

  • ETの信仰と科学： ETは「宗教」は人間が作ったものだと認識しているが、「信仰」は持っている。「あなたが神と呼ぶものが存在することを私たちは受け入れている。それはもはや創造主、あなたが神と呼ぶものが存在する、という信仰に基づく理想ではない。それは真実だ。」彼らは死後の世界を信じ、「愛する者とコミュニケーションをとる手段さえ持っている」という。ただし、「死後に何が起こるかについては尋ねてはいけない禁断の質問がある。」

  • ETとのコミュニケーション： ストーン曹長は、ETとのコミュニケーションが「頭の中で聞こえる」形で行われることを示唆している。ある士官の経験を例に挙げ、「あなたは頭の中で彼らの声を聞いたのだ。まるで今あなたと私が話しているようにね。」と述べている。

  • 相互作用の多様性： すべての接触が友好的とは限らないとプログラムで教えられたが、ストーン曹長が「友好的でなかった」唯一のケースは、「私たちが攻撃を開始した時だった」と指摘している。

  • ETによる人間の「研究」： ETは人間を「研究」していると考えられており、「あなたが彼らに、より良い言葉が見つからなければ、研究するために選ばれたなら、それは幼い頃から始まる。」そして、彼らは人間の死を「悼む」ほど長く生きるという。

  1. 政府の隠蔽と情報統制

証言の核心の一つは、政府によるUFOおよびET情報の長年にわたる隠蔽と、それに関連する行動である。

  • 情報隠蔽の歴史： 隠蔽は「ロズウェルでの墜落以前」から行われており、「第二次世界大戦中、太平洋戦線で地球外起源のものを入手した」時期にまで遡る。

  • 情報の隔離： 政府は「UFOの中には、実際には惑星間宇宙船であるもの、次元間、多次元の宇宙船であるものもある」という事実を国民から隠蔽している。

  • 情報開示の困難さ： ストーン曹長は、自身の経験を話すことが「非常に難しい」と述べており、UFOの目撃や経験を話すと「すぐにあなたの正気が問われる。すぐにあなたの誠実さが問われる。」ために、多くの人々が情報を「瓶の中に閉じ込めて」話さないことを選択すると指摘している。

  • プログラムへの組み込み： 軍は、UFOの目撃や接触経験を持つ民間人をプログラムに組み込んでいる。「彼らは学校でこれを教えることはできない。彼らは民間の人々を見つけて、いわば仲間に引き入れる必要がある。」

  • 「学校」と人間性の喪失： ストーン曹長は、UFO関連の情報を扱うために送られる「学校」の存在を語っている。この学校から戻ってきた人々は「異なっていた。冷たく、無神経だった。他の人々に何が起こるかについて、彼らは本当に気にしなかった。」と述べている。彼らは、情報を漏らさないように人々を「任務」として扱い、その結果、関係者が精神的な問題や自殺に至っても気にしなかったという。

  • 部分的な開示の可能性： ストーン曹長は、「私たちの政府は、他の政府とともに、訪問者と何らかの社会的な交流を持っている」と確信しているが、完全な開示がまだ行われていない理由の一部は「私たちの訪問者」にもあると考えている。

  • ロズウェルでの経験： ストーン曹長はロズウェルに配属された際、上官からUFOに関する情報開示請求（FOIA）を行うことや、政治家や政府機関に連絡を取ることを「合法的な命令」として禁じられたが、これを「違法な命令」とみなし続行した。その結果、任務を解かれ、心理評価を受け、不名誉除隊を試みられたという。

  1. 人類の課題と精神的成長の必要性

ストーン曹長は、UFOとETの存在がもたらす意味合いを、人類全体の精神的な進化と結びつけている。

  • 隔離状態の人類： ストーン曹長は、人類が「隔離状態の世界」にいると表現している。「私たちは自分たちの小さな太陽系を探検できるだろう。私たちはその境界線を越えて見ることができるだろう。しかし、宇宙を探検することはできないだろう。私たちはその前に、自分たちの技術の犠牲となるだろう。精神的に成長しない限りは。」

  • 技術の危険性： 人類が「自らの技術の犠牲となる」可能性について警鐘を鳴らしている。特に、「テロリストが汚い爆弾を使うことを考えている」現状や、インターネットでその製造方法が共有されることなどを挙げ、「冷戦は終わったと言うが、私たちはすでに犠牲となっている。」と述べている。

  • 精神性の重要性： 「技術と共に精神的にも進歩するか、さもなくばその犠牲となる」と強調し、「私たちは本当にお互いに何が起こるかを気にかけ始める必要がある。」と訴えている。「もし私たちが精神的に成長すれば、私たちが宇宙に行く日がそう遠くないだろう。」

  • 情報開示への提言： 政府は「宇宙に我々だけではないという情報を、責任ある方法で公開し始める必要がある」と提言している。ETは「純粋に科学的な目的」で地球を訪れており、人類が「いつか自分たち自身を破壊しないように啓蒙すること」を望んでいると推測している。

  1. ストーン曹長の個人的な経験と苦悩

証言には、ストーン曹長がUFO関連の任務に従事する中で経験した個人的な苦悩と、情報開示への強い動機が含まれている。

  • 幼少期の「見えない遊び仲間」： 幼少期に「見えない遊び仲間」がいたと語っており、彼らが「非常に人間らしく見え」、自身を「注意深く」するようにと警告していたという。これは、ETとの関係が彼の幼少期から始まっていた可能性を示唆している。

  • 「二重生活」： 軍務中のUFO関連の任務は、「二重生活」を強いられるものであった。「家族に何をしているか話すことができなかった。」これにより、家族との間に生じた空白（子供の試合や誕生日に不在だったことなど）への後悔を吐露している。

  • 内部の葛藤とトラウマ： プログラム内で「人々に私たちが行っていたこと」を知った時に幻滅したと述べ、真実を知っているために「人々が家族を失い、仕事を失い、時には命を奪うことさえあった」ことに疑問を呈している。また、UFO事件に関わった人々は「トラウマを負っており、そこには何の助けもない」現状を批判している。

  • 真実を語ることの重要性： 「平和を得るためには、家族から始めて、話す必要がある」と強く訴えている。特に、家族に対して自身の経験を話すことの重要性を強調しており、自身の息子や孫娘に経験を話したエピソードを挙げている。

  • 自己認識の問い： 自身が誘拐された記憶はないものの、「この地球上にいなかったような視点からしか見ることができなかった」満点の星空の記憶があり、それが「私自身がブロックしている部分」であると推測している。また、「私には、私が持っている記憶の中で、あまり意味をなさない他のことがある。」と述べ、自身の人生におけるETとの相互作用が「学習プロセス」であることを示唆している。

  • 情報共有と感情： 自身がダウンロードする何千ものCDに保存された文書をETが「読み取っている」と感じており、ETが「私を通して、その情報を記録し、後世のために保存することができる」と信じている。彼の感情は、ETとの「人間的な」関係の中で複雑なものになっており、時には「すべての人とすべてを憎むことができればと願った」とまで述べているが、「憎むことはできない」と語っている。

結論​

クリフォード・ストーン曹長の証言は、UFOと地球外生命体の存在を具体的な詳細とともに主張するだけでなく、その隠蔽が個人と社会にもたらす深刻な影響を浮き彫りにしている。彼の物語は、政府の透明性の欠如、真実を知る人々の精神的負担、そして人類が直面する倫理的および精神的な課題について深く考えさせるものである。ストーン曹長は、人類が精神的に進化し、他者への配慮を持つ社会を築くことこそが、未来の宇宙探査と自己破壊の回避のための鍵であると強く訴えている。

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幼少期​

  • 時期不明（7〜8歳頃）: クリフォード・ストーンが初めてUFOイベントと認識できる体験をする。それ以前にも超常現象のような奇妙な出来事を経験していたが、UFOや地球外生命体とは結びつけていなかった。この頃からUFOに関心を持つようになる。
  • 幼少期〜思春期: ストーンは、他の人には見えない「空想の遊び仲間」がいた。彼らは実際には彼に助言を与えていた存在で、人間のように見えた。
  • 時期不明（幼少期）: ストーンが傷ついた小鳥を助けようとして、誤って溺死させてしまう。この出来事が彼に深い悲しみと罪悪感を与え、異星人「コロナ」がその感情を感知し、共感を示す最初の具体的な交流となる。

1967年​

  • 12月: ストーンがオハイオ州コロンバスのフォート・ヘイズで軍隊入隊の身体検査を受ける。全ての試験に合格するが、健康上の問題で4F（不適格）と診断され、入隊できないと言われる。

  • 6月下旬（翌年）: オハイオ州ポーツマスに戻ったストーンは、ケンタッキー州アシュランドでの再評価を指示する手紙を受け取る。

  • 再評価時: ある医療士官がストーンに「本当に入隊したいのか？」と尋ね、ストーンは入隊を果たす。この士官は、いつでも除隊したければ「健康上の問題」を伝えればよいと助言する。

軍入隊後​

  • 初期の基礎訓練（BASIC）: 特に変わった出来事はない。

  • AIT（高度個別訓練）フォート・ジャクソン（サウスカロライナ州）: ストーンはAITのためフォート・ジャクソンに配属される。

  • AIT訓練4日目: 彼は情報局に清掃員として派遣される。そこでワシントンからの特別任務の紳士と出会い、トップシークレット文書や写真を見せられる。彼はUFOについて尋ねられ、最初は否定的な態度をとるが、最終的にはUFOに関する情報に触れるようになる。彼はこの時期、タイピングの訓練を受けていないにも関わらず、後に73WPMと記録される。

  • 初の任地（フォート・リー、バージニア州、第36民事部隊）時期不明: ストーンは自分がタイプできないと主張するが、記録にはタイプ速度が記載されている。上官から「軍の兵科の違いを理解していない」と言われ、彼が陸軍ではなく空軍に入隊していたことが示唆される。

  • その後: ストーンはAWOL（無許可離隊）の罪に問われる危機に瀕する。これは彼がフォート・ベルボアで目撃したUFO関連の映像について口外しないように仕向けられたものであった。

  • 脅迫: ストーンは軍法会議にかけられ、懲戒除隊になる可能性を告げられる。彼が軍の記録上は空軍に入隊していたことを利用され、3年間の再入隊とUFOプログラムへの協力（協力すればAWOLを不問にする）を強制される。彼は渋々これを受け入れる。

軍人としての「二重生活」​

  • 時期不明（入隊後）: ストーンはNBCNCO（核生物化学戦下士官）の職務に就く。この職務にはタイピングが必要とされたが、彼は旧式のレミントンタイプライターで「指一本」で対応する。この職務の一環として、彼はNBC緊急対応チームに配属される。

  • インディアナタウン・ギャップ（ペンシルベニア州）: 野外訓練中にNBC事案が発生したとの通知を受け、墜落した航空機とされる現場へ移動する。そこで奇妙な形状の航空機（UFO）と、非人間型の生命体（エイリアン）の遺体を目撃する。放射線測定を行うが、放射線レベルは急速に低下する。彼は現場で士官の来訪を求めるが、拒否され、トラック内で待機するよう命じられる。これが彼が関わった最初のUFO墜落回収の事例。

  • その他の墜落回収事案: ストーンは合計12のUFO関連事案に関与し、そのうち3件は墜落回収であった。これらの回収では、生命体の遺体も発見され、中にはまだ生きている生命体もいたため、特殊な治療が必要であった。これが「様々な種を扱ったカタログ」が存在する理由であり、合成食が用いられた。

  • 期間不明（第二次世界大戦以前から）: 地球外生命体との接触における感染症のリスクを避けるための隔離措置が講じられていた。これはロズウェル事件以前、太平洋戦線で地球外起源の物品を回収した際に確立された。

  • 期間不明（米国内外）: ストーンは米国、ドイツ（ヨーロッパ全域をカバー）、ベトナムで複数のUFO関連事案に関与した。これらの経験は極秘であり、家族に話すことができなかったため、彼の私生活に大きな影響を与えた。

軍隊からの離反と退役後​

  • 時期不明（プログラム参加中）: ストーンは、プログラムが関わる人々に引き起こす精神的苦痛（家族や仕事を失う、自殺に至る）を知り、幻滅する。

  • 時期不明（退役後）: ストーンはロズウェル（ニューメキシコ州）のROTC部隊に配属される。上官は彼のUFOへの関与を嫌い、情報公開法（FOIA）に基づく情報請求や政府機関への接触を禁止する違法な命令を下す。ストーンはこれを無視し、情報請求を続ける。

  • 結果: ストーンは任務を解かれ、精神鑑定を強制されるが、正気であると診断される。軍は彼に強制退役を迫り、懲戒免職を試みるが、彼は抵抗する。

  • 時期不明（退役時）: ストーンの部隊の執行士官がUFOについて全て話すよう要求するが、ストーンは「真実を知らない贅沢がある」と答える。

  • 1995年: ストーンの息子が死去。この出来事をきっかけに、ストーンは家族（特に長男と孫娘）に自身のUFO関連の経験を話し始める。異星人「コロナ」もストーンの悲しみに寄り添い、共に祈りを捧げる。

  • 現在:ストーンは、自身が「インターフェイサー」（異星人との仲介者）として利用されてきたと考えている。彼らはストーンの幼少期からの経験を知っており、彼を通じて情報（特に軍事、宇宙、SDI、UFO関連の文書）を収集していると推測している。彼は政府がUFOや地球外生命体に関する情報を隠蔽していると主張し、人々が真実を知るべきだと訴えている。また、異星人との接触は世界中で多くの人々に起こっており、多くの場合、本人たちはその記憶を抑圧していると述べている。

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登場人物

クリフォード・ストーン曹長 (Sgt. First Class Clifford Stone, U.S. Army, Retired)​

  • この証言の中心人物。米陸軍の退役曹長。
  • 幼少期からUFOに関心を持ち、後に軍の極秘UFO回収プログラムに関与することになる。
  • 12件のUFO関連事案に関与し、うち3件は墜落したUFOの回収であったと証言。
  • エイリアンの医療カタログの存在、合成食の使用、エイリアンとのコミュニケーション（テレパシー）、彼らの社会構造（「蜂の巣」に例えられる共同体主義）などについて語る。
  • 軍のプログラムが関わる人々に与える精神的苦痛（家族関係の破壊、精神疾患、自殺）に幻滅し、政府の隠蔽工作に異議を唱える。
  • 異星人との深い個人的な関係を築き、特に「コロナ」と呼ぶ存在との精神的なつながりを持つ。
  • 自身を「インターフェイサー」と認識し、異星人が彼を通じて情報を収集していると信じている。
  • 情報公開の必要性を強く訴える。

コロナ (KORONA)​

  • クリフォード・ストーンが個人的に深い関係を持つ地球外生命体。ストーンは彼の名を「K」で綴るよう指示されたと述べている。
  • 身長約4.5〜5フィート。緑がかった肌色。
  • 特徴的な顔つき（頭蓋骨の上部が大きく、頬が小さい、涙滴型の目、鼻と口は小さなスリット）。
  • 感情表現豊かで、ストーンと家族状況について話すこともあった。
  • 地球人とは異なる自己保存本能を持つが、恐怖を感じる。
  • 社会は共通の善のために機能しており、競争もその目的のために行われる。
  • ストーンの息子の死を共に悼ぎ、共に祈りを捧げた経験がある。
  • 宗教については「人間が作ったもの」と認識しているが、「信仰」は持ち、科学に基づいて「神」の存在を受け入れている。
  • 死後の世界を信じ、故人との交信手段も持っている。

医療士官 (Medical Officer at Ashland, Kentucky)​

  • ストーンが軍に入隊する際の再評価に関わった士官。
  • ストーンの入隊を助け、いつでも除隊できると示唆した人物。ストーンが後にUFOプログラムに引き込まれる遠因となった。

ワシントンからの紳士 (Gentleman from Washington at Fort Jackson)​

  • ストーンがフォート・ジャクソン（AIT時）で出会った人物。
  • 情報局の特別任務に就いており、ストーンにトップシークレットを超えるUFO関連の文書や写真を見せた。
  • ストーンがUFOプログラムに関わるきっかけを作った人物。

第36民事部隊の士官たち (Officers at 36 Civil Affairs)​

  • 一等軍曹 (First Sergeant): ストーンの最初の任地での直属の上官。ストーンの記録が不審な点（タイプ速度など）を持つことを指摘。
  • 部隊司令官 (Unit Commander): ストーンが陸軍ではなく空軍の宣誓をしていたことを指摘し、彼をAWOLの容疑で軍法会議にかける可能性を示唆した人物。
  • 尋問官たち (Interrogators): ストーンをフォート・ベルボアでの目撃事件の後、集中尋問にかけた2人の人物。彼らはストーンを軍法会議にかける脅迫を使って、UFOプログラムへの協力を強制した。
  • 執行士官 (Executive Officer): ストーンの退役時にUFOについて全て話すよう要求した人物。ストーンに「真実を知らない贅沢」があることを告げられる。

ストーンの家族 (Clifford Stone's Family)​

  • ストーンの息子たち: 父親が多くの家族行事を欠席したことについて不満を述べていたが、後にストーンがUFO関連の任務に従事していたことを知り理解を示す。特に長男は1995年の弟の死をきっかけに、父親の話を思い出すようになる。
  • ストーンの息子（1995年死去）: ストーンにとって非常に個人的で深い悲しみの源。彼の死は、ストーンが家族に自身のUFO経験を打ち明けるきっかけとなり、コロナがストーンと共に悲しみを分かち合った出来事でもある。
  • ストーンの孫娘: ストーンが最も多くのことを話した家族の一人。彼女は彼の話に強い関心を示した。

航空兵 (Airman)​

  • フォート・ベルボアでストーンと共にUFOの映像を目撃し、その後の集中尋問を受けた人物。ストーンよりも早く尋問を終えた。

  • 匿名士官 (Officer in Washington, D.C.) ストーンがワシントンD.C.で出会った、UFO関連の事件に関与した別の士官。

  • 彼はエイリアンが頭の中でテレパシーで話しかけてきた経験があり、ストーンがその体験の真偽を確信させる。最終的に彼は家族に真実を話す決意をする。

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幼少期のUFO体験、を敷衍して。

クリフォード・ストーン曹長の証言によると、彼のUFOとの初期接触と継続的な関わりにおいて、幼少期のUFO体験は彼の人生全体と、地球外生命体との特異な関係の基礎を築いています。

ストーン曹長の幼少期の体験は、以下の点で彼のその後の人生に大きな影響を与えています。

  • 初期のUFOイベントと超常現象：

    • ストーン曹長は、7歳か8歳の頃に初めてUFOイベントとして明確に識別できる体験をしたと述べています。
    • それ以前にも、「奇妙なこと」が彼に起こっていましたが、彼はそれらをUFOや地球外生命体の起源とは結びつけていませんでした。むしろ、それらは「超常的なもの」だと考えており、最初は怖がっていたものの、どうすることもできないと悟ったそうです。
    • 彼の人生のごく初期から現在に至るまで、彼はUFOや奇妙な出来事に関わってきました。彼の家で過ごす人々にさえ、奇妙な出来事が起こると言われています。

  • 「見えない遊び相手」と感情的なつながり：

    • 子供の頃、ストーン曹長には「見えない遊び相手」がいました。彼は彼らを想像の友達ではなく、「本当に存在した」と述べています。彼らは非常に人間に似た見た目で、他の人には見えないため、自分たちのことを話す際には注意するようストーン曹長に警告していました。
    • ある時、彼は傷ついた小鳥を助けようとして誤って溺れさせてしまい、何週間も深く悲しみました。この出来事の際に、彼の感情に反応して、「コロナ」という名の地球外生命体が「彼が本当にどのような存在であるか」という姿で初めて現れました。コロナはストーン曹長が感じていることを自分も感じているため、その感情の理由を知りたがっていました。
    • コロナは、なぜストーン曹長がそれほどの深い悲しみを感じるのか、なぜ泣かないようにするのかといった質問を投げかけ、人間の感情や死の概念について探求しているようでした。ストーン曹長は子供ながらに、その小鳥を「人間の文脈」、つまり「子供の命を奪った」かのように捉えていたことを、訪問者たちは理解していたと述べています。
    • この感情的なつながりは、ストーン曹長の人生を通じて続き、彼自身の息子が亡くなった際には、コロナが彼と共に「喪に服した」と語っています。この関係性は、ストーン曹長にとって「ほとんどの人が考えるよりも人間的」であると説明されており、言葉で表現するのが難しい感情的な絆があったことが示唆されています。

  • 「研究」の対象としての選択と継続的な学習：

    • ストーン曹長は、もし訪問者が誰かを「研究」の対象として選ぶ場合、それは「幼少期から始まる」と述べています。そして、訪問者はその対象が亡くなるまで生き、その死を悼むほどの長い関係を築くとしています。
    • 彼が軍で「インターフェース」として使われたのは、まさに彼の幼少期や十代の出来事が理由であり、地球外生命体は somehow それを知っていたためだと語っています。政府は、UFOとの接触を教えることはできず、民間部門からそのような能力を持つ人々を見つけて「取り込む」必要があると説明しています。
    • ストーン曹長は、彼自身が知っていること、見ていることのすべてを訪問者が知っている、見ていると感じており、彼を通じて情報を記録し、保存していると信じています。彼らは人間から、生涯を通じて学びを得ているとのことです。

このように、ストーン曹長の幼少期のUFO体験は、単なる好奇心の始まりではなく、彼が地球外生命体と持つ深く、個人的で、生涯にわたる関係性の根本を形成しています。これらの初期の経験が彼を軍のUFO関連プログラムにおける重要な「インターフェース」の役割へと導き、地球外生命体が人間を「研究」するプロセスの一部となっていることが示唆されています。

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ET社会の構造と信仰…について敷衍して。

クリフォード・ストーン曹長の証言は、個人的な地球外生命体（ET）との関係、特にコロナと彼との深い絆を通じて、ET社会の構造と信仰について重要な洞察を提供しています。

ET社会の構造

  • 家族と感情的な絆: ストーン曹長は、地球外生命体が「遺伝子的に作られている」という一般的な考えに反し、彼らの社会には「愛が存在する」と述べています。彼らの社会からそれが失われているわけではなく、「種族の雌雄間の絆」も存在すると説明しています。これは、地球外生命体が我々人間が持つような、自然な関係性と感情的なつながりを経験していることを示唆しています。彼らは「ほとんどの人が考えるよりも人間的」であると説明されており、言葉で表現するのが難しい感情的な絆があったことが示唆されています。
  • 共通の利益への協力: 地球外生命体は、個々の競争よりも「社会の共通の利益」のために働いています。ストーン曹長はこれを「ミツバチの巣箱」に例え、すべてのミツバチがコロニーの共通の利益のために働くのと同様に、彼らもそうしていると説明しています。これは、彼らの社会が高度に集合的かつ協調的であり、個人の欲求よりも集団の福祉を優先する構造を持っていることを示唆しています。
  • 「はぐれ者」の存在とその対処: 彼らの社会にも「はぐれ者」は存在し、他の生物の感情に無関心である場合があります。このような「はぐれ者」が発生した場合、彼らは「ミツバチの巣箱（の比喩）の中で抽出されるか、殺される」と述べられており、社会の調和を保つための厳しい対処メカニズムが存在することを示唆しています。

ET社会の信仰と信念

  • 宗教と信仰の区別: ストーン曹長がコロナに宗教について尋ねた際、コロナは「宗教？それは人間が作ったものではないか？」と問い返しました。しかし、「信仰はあるか？」という問いに対しては、「はい、信仰はあります」と答えています。これは、彼らが人間が制度化した宗教とは異なる、より根本的な形の「信仰」を持っていることを示唆しています。
  • 創造主（神）への信念: 彼らは、人間が「神と呼ぶ創造主」の存在を「私たちの科学に基づいて受け入れている」と述べています。これは、創造主の存在が彼らにとって「もはや信仰に基づいた理想ではなく、真に存在する」とされており、科学的な理解と精神的な信念が統合されていることを示唆しています。
  • 死後の世界と故人とのコミュニケーション: 地球外生命体は「死後の世界を信じている」とストーン曹長は述べています。さらに、「彼らには愛する者と意思疎通する手段さえある」とも語っており、それは単なる「手品」ではなく、実際に可能な手段であると説明しています。ストーン曹長自身、息子が亡くなった後に二度、息子と会うことを許されたと示唆しています。ただし、死後に何が起こるかについての「禁断の質問」があり、これを尋ねると直ちに会話が遮断されるとのことです。
  • 人間への干渉の制限: 彼らは「この宗教が真実で正しい宗教である、またはあの宗教が真実で正しい宗教であると、あなたに伝えることはできない」と述べています。これは、人間が「自分自身の方法で崇拝しなければならない」という原則があり、ETが人間の精神的な道筋に直接介入しないことを示唆しています。

コロナとの個人的な関係がこれらの洞察をどのように提供するか

ストーン曹長とコロナの関係は、これらのET社会の側面を個人的なレベルで具体化しています。

  • 感情的な共感と理解: ストーン曹長が幼少期に鳥を死なせて深く悲しんだ際、コロナは初めて「本当の姿」で現れ、ストーン曹長が感じている感情を自身も感じていることに驚き、その理由を知りたがりました。コロナは、ストーン曹長が鳥の死を「人間の文脈、つまり子供の命を奪ったかのように」捉えていることを理解していました。これは、ETが人間の複雑な感情、特に悲しみや共感を深く理解し、さらには共有する能力を持っていることを示しています。
  • 長期的な関わりと学習: ストーン曹長が1995年に息子を亡くした際、コロナは彼と共に「喪に服した」と語っています。これは、彼らの関係が数十年にわたり続き、深く個人的なレベルで感情的なサポートを提供するほどのものであることを示しています。ストーン曹長は、ETが誰かを「研究」の対象として選ぶ場合、「幼少期から始まり」、対象者が亡くなるまで生き、その死を悼むほどの長い関係を築くとしています。これは、彼らが人間から生涯にわたる学習を得ているという彼らの目的とも一致します。
  • 精神的側面の共有: コロナがストーン曹長と共に祈りを捧げ、宗教と信仰、そして創造主に関する彼らの見解を共有したことは、ETが単に科学技術的に進んでいるだけでなく、深い精神性を持っていることを示しています。

このように、ストーン曹長の幼少期からのコロナとの個人的な関わりは、ET社会が持つ集合的な性質、感情的な深さ、そして高度な精神的・科学的信念体系についての具体的な証拠を提供しています。

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UFOプログラムにおける軍人の生活…について敷衍して。

UFOプログラムにおける軍人の生活というより大きな文脈において、情報源は軍の秘密教育プログラムについていくつかの興味深い側面を明らかにしています。クリフォード・ストーン曹長の証言は、正規の軍事訓練の枠を超えた、秘密裏に行われる教育や訓練の存在を示唆しています。

具体的には、以下の点が挙げられます。

  • 「学校」の存在と、その心理的影響:

    • ストーン曹長は、「学校」が存在し、そこに送られることがあると述べています。彼は、その「学校」から戻ってきた人々が「冷たく、無情」であり、「特定の人々がどうなろうと本当に気にかけない」と表現しています。これらの人々にとって、対象者は単なる「数字」であり、彼らの任務は「口外しないようにすること」であったと説明されています。
    • この「学校」は、関係者が感情的な鈍感さを養い、任務遂行のために非人間的な態度をとるように訓練される場所であった可能性が示唆されます。実際に、このプログラムに関わった人々が精神的な問題を抱えたり、自らの命を絶ったりすることについて「彼らは冗談を言った」とストーン曹長は述べており、それが彼が「私たちがしていることは恐ろしいことだ」と感じるようになった理由の一つです。

  • 「強化尋問」を通じた非公式な教育と採用:

    • ストーン曹長自身が、**4日間にわたる「強化尋問」**を受けたと述べています。これは軍の秘密プログラムへの採用プロセスの一部であり、そこでは彼に「UFOが実在すること」、「あなたは経験を持っている」という事実が突きつけられました。
    • 尋問者たちは、ストーン曹長を「チームの一部」にすることを提案し、その見返りとして「我々が知っている特定のことを理解させ、さらに多くのことを学ぶことができる」と持ちかけました。これは、単なる尋問ではなく、秘密情報へのアクセスと知識の提供を交換条件とする、ある種の非公式な教育プログラムであったと言えます。これにより、彼はUFO関連の事象に関する深い知識と理解を得る立場になったと示唆されています。

  • 機密情報への初期アクセス:

    • ストーン曹長は、軍に入隊して間もない頃、情報将校から「トップシークレットをはるかに超える」内容の「写真や文書」を見せられたと語っています。彼は当時、自分がそれらを見るべきではないと認識していましたが、将校は「君はそれを見る必要がある」と述べました。
    • この経験は、彼が正式なクリアランスを持たないにもかかわらず、UFO関連の秘密情報に意図的に触れさせられたことを示しており、彼の後の役割への準備段階としての「教育」または「感化」の一部であったと考えられます。

  • 非伝統的なスキルの習得:

    • ストーン曹長は、軍の事務員としての訓練中に、一度もタイプライターに触れることなく、後に1分間に73ワード打てると記録されていたという奇妙な経験を語っています。これは、彼が公式には訓練されていないにもかかわらず、何らかの形でスキルが習得されたことを示唆しており、彼の「二重生活」の一部としての隠れた訓練や能力開発があった可能性を示唆しています。

  • インターフェースとしての選定:

    • ストーン曹長が「インターフェース」として利用された理由は、「幼少期やティーンエイジャーの頃に起こった出来事」に起因すると説明されており、地球外生命体がそれを何らかの形で知っていたためだとしています。政府は、UFOとの接触能力を「学校で教えることはできない」ため、「民間部門でそのような能力を持つ人々を見つけて、組織に組み込む」必要があったと述べています。これは、生まれつきの能力を持つ個人を特定し、その能力を軍事目的で活用するための特殊な「プログラム」が存在していたことを示唆しています。

これらの情報から、軍はUFOプログラムに携わる人員に対し、心理的調整、機密情報への段階的なアクセス、そして非伝統的な方法による知識やスキルの付与を通じて、秘密裏に教育・訓練を施していたことが読み取れます。特に、感情を麻痺させ、任務に特化させるような「学校」の存在は、プログラムの性質とそれに伴う倫理的な問題を示唆しています。

文字起こし

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（以下は Youtube 動画の文字起こしです。長いので 2分割し、これはその前半です。内容は Sgt. Clifford Stone Army, Rtired の 証言です。）

My name is Clifford Stone. I retired as a Sergeant First Class from the U.S. Army. I was born in Portsmouth, Ohio. I have had an interest in UFOs since I was about oh, seven, eight years old, when I had my first initial experience that I could readily identify as a UFO event. Prior to that, I had strange things happening to me, which I didn't actually tie those to UFOs. And I didn't tie them to anything of extraterrestrial origin. (0:00:37)

Actually, I thought of them more along the lines of something being supernatural. It scared me, but then I realized there was nothing I could do about it. So, from a very early start in life, all the way up to and including the present, I've been involved in UFOs and I've had strange events. And people tell you that if you spend time at my house for any length of time, you will have strange events happen to you. (0:01:01)

We've attempted to shoot down UFOs in the past with little effect. We actually shot pieces off, but during that time, there were mechanical problems with them. The reason that you cannot go ahead and shoot a UFO down, the reason you don't have no sonic boom, you have a quarter of an inch of a perfect vacuum all the way around the airframe. You cannot penetrate that vacuum. (0:01:40)

No weapon known to man can penetrate it. Now, do they have countermeasures where if they were up against an alien craft that was a threat to them that had the same technology, do they have measures where they could go ahead and neutralize it on the enemy spacecraft? I don't know. But I do know that that right there is the one thing that protects them and also provides for them to travel through our atmosphere at a speed far greater than the speed of sound without breaking the sound barrier. (0:02:15)

The cases that I was involved in, the 12, three actually involved crash retrievals. The three crash retrievals had bodies with them and some of the entities were still alive, which was necessary to treat them, which is why there's the catalog that deals with the various species. The catalog exists because rendering first aid to our visitors is quite unique and different from what we would consider first aid. (0:02:57)

You had medics there who would go ahead and take care of those people, but they needed that section that dealt with the cataloging and what types of food that they could be fed. Actually, we use, I'm going to say the word wrong, but we use synthesized food. We did not give them the food that we normally eat and take for granted every day. (0:03:27)

It could actually be poisonous to them. First aid the way we give first aid could actually cause their death. So we had to know how to administer specifically the things that was needed to preserve their life, if at all possible. (0:03:48)

The other thing is, when you went to a crash retrieval, you always was going against the clock. Because just like us, when we have a plane go down, there's an emergency beacon sent out. When one of their craft go down, there is an emergency distress call that goes out to their people. And immediately, they try to recover. And on more than one occasion, the military and their people have gotten there at the same time. (0:04:20)

The best thing to do when that happens is for us to back off. Because they are going to do everything they can to protect their people and recover the bodies and recover any of the injured or those that are still alive. They are not going to try to take overt hostile acts towards us. Many of the species on an individual basis would permit themselves to be killed before they would have any of us hurt. (0:04:53)

Not all the species are that way, but many are. The self-preservation that we have isn't the same with them. That doesn't mean they want to die. It doesn't mean that they don't feel fear just like we do. And I can tell you they feel fear. I can tell you they really feel fear at times. And it shouldn't be that way with us. It should be that they know that we want to help them, but then again, the greed of man comes into play. (0:05:31)

What they have, we want. And the only way we can get it, we must learn from them. And if it means going through interrogation, things of this sort, and doing unethical things, because there aren't any laws that protect them. Your pet retriever has more rights than any E.T. has. Knowing that, that is one of the reasons we're in quarantine. There is nothing that would stop us, if we were to become, in the matter of the next couple of years, interplanetary travelers, meaning visiting other solar systems. (0:06:16)

If we achieve that, and we go to a place that's got life very similar to the life here on Earth, and even in a sentient, intelligent life, that is on part of man, but looks a little different, we could do anything we wanted to there, in the interest of furthering our scientific knowledge, and not even think about the moral issues of what we're doing to the life on that planet. (0:06:47)

The only thought we would have is the precautions we needed to take to ensure, when we left that planet, we did not come back here and infect our planet with a very deadly disease. That's been in place since, actually, before the crash here in Roswell. That was in place during the Second World War. Because it was during the Second World War that, in the Pacific Theater, that they came into possession of things that were of extraterrestrial origin. (0:07:31)

And if you're not very careful when you go to a crash site, you run into the possibility of having casualties. (0:07:40)

Not because they're hostile, but because you have to be very careful with the equipment that they have on board the craft. The great art of reading, it's dead. People want to be told, this is the truth. The one message that I cry out all the time, let nobody live in your mind rent-free. Make sure of these things. Read, in my case, I always allude to the documentation. (0:08:19)

And I'm always being told, people don't want to read the documentation. What do the people want then? Do they want to go ahead and hide their head in the sand like an ostrich? Or do they want to be enlightened by the sun that is shining bright in day? One, you can have somebody tell you these are the facts. That doesn't make it so. (0:08:44)

You can get the documents that have the pedigree, that paint a story, that show that something is going on. Then how that interrelates with your life, to what degree of experiences if you had, then you put those together. But first you search out the truth. Then when you find out that you have had things happen in your life, or if you already know you were involved with these things, you owe it to your family and to yourself to tell them what happened in your life. (0:09:27)

Why you weren't there for that ballgame. Why you weren't there for maybe the first steps of your child. Maybe at the time of the birth of your child. But the times that you weren't there, because you were out in the service of your country. And it was things you were never to talk about. Now that you are out, you are going to live a normal life, so you are never going to bring it up. (0:09:54)

But it's eating at you from within, inside. It's also eating away at your family. You need to let them know what really happened. The initial situation was at Indiantown Gap, Pennsylvania. We went there on a field training exercise. Being a civil affairs unit, they had certain scenarios they had to play out. Well, while we were there at that particular location, we were notified that there was an NBC incident that occurred, and that a plane went down, and it had radiological equipment on it, or radiological weapons. (0:10:44)

So we had to move out. There was already a team there when we got there, and they had everything set up. But once we got there, upon our arrival, as we got closer and closer to the mountain of earth, we could see that there was an aircraft there. But none of us could identify what the craft was. I drove a deuce-and-a-half, because the deuce-and-a-half had all of my field equipment. (0:11:11)

The radios, the switchboard, the NBC equipment. Upon getting there, they went ahead and told me that they wanted me to go towards the object itself and take radiological readings. I went towards it, and as I got closer and closer, the readings would go up, but then they'd go down, up, down. (0:11:39)

I now know why that happened. It's the propulsion system. The propulsion system they use will initially give off a lot of background radiation, but it dissipates in a matter of minutes. But they wanted me to go ahead and get as close to the object as I could. So I kept going, and I got up to where I could look down into the mound where it was at. (0:12:09)

The craft was like a heel shape, and they had a canopy, but on each side of the canopy. And the only way I can describe it is like a kidney-shaped hatch that was open, and there was a body lying out there, and you could immediately tell it wasn't human. I started to call for an officer, because I needed an officer to come there to see what I was seeing. (0:12:40)

This wasn't real. This wasn't something that was supposed to be happening. And they told me, no, just describe what you're seeing. And I said, no, I really need an officer up here. I said, you don't understand, I really need an officer up here. No one came. Eventually they said, that's fine, so I went back down. Then they told me to go back into the deuce and a half. (0:13:08)

That some field phones had already been set up from there. I would operate the switchboard SP-22. And I was to stay there until I was later notified to come out. That all rations of the day would be C rations, and there were C rations in the truck. I wasn't to look out of the truck or nothing else from that point on. So that was the initial start. (0:13:31)

And from there on, there were other events that occurred. A lot of people think that you're in a unit just waiting for the next UFO event. That's not it. You actually had a real job you did in the military. But you had a double life. And on more than one occasion, we had situations where we were called out. There in the United States, I had several. (0:14:02)

In Germany, I had several which covered all of Europe. In Vietnam, we had several instances. But I think the biggest thing about going on these events was you couldn't talk to nobody. You had to keep it bottled up. You couldn't tell your family what you were doing. Being a clerk, I shouldn't go all that TDY. I shouldn't be gone for weeks, months at a time. (0:14:36)

Mommy kids, they didn't understand that. And just this last month, I went on vacation. My two sons were throwing it up to me about, Dad, you missed out on a lot of occasions with us. And I tried to explain to them it wasn't because I didn't want to be there. But I've already told them events that happened. And my oldest son started to recall what I had said prior with the death of my son in 1995. Because then I started to tell them. (0:15:13)

My granddaughter I think I've told the most to because she asks. (0:15:16)

And she really took an interest in what I was saying about what happened. But I think people that were involved in this, the people who went out there and did the recoveries, who've seen the things that they have to live with day to day, they really need to tell their families. I got disillusioned with it when I found out the things we were doing to people. (0:15:45)

I got disillusioned with it when I found out, knowing the truth, we would cause people to lose their families, lose their jobs, and at times they would even take their lives. And to me there was nothing right about this. What purpose can it serve by telling these people who've had these events, who actually were the response people, who went to these locations where these events took place, to try to tell them that there's a posaic explanation, when they knew better. (0:16:22)

But the end result, they're traumatized and there isn't no help out there. If you go and tell somebody about a UFO event or experience you had, immediately your sanity comes into question. Immediately people question your integrity. And that's what these people have to deal with. So what do you do? You bottle it up and you say nothing. That's the safe thing. But it really isn't safe because it comes back to haunt you. (0:16:57)

So right now what I would like is for people who have been out there, who have been involved in this, to tell their families what they were involved with. I had an officer, and a lot of you people in the field know him. When I talked to him in Washington, D.C., he was involved in an incident. He came up and he asked me, how did they talk? (0:17:21)

I said, you heard them in your head. I said, it was just like you and I talking right now. And you thought you were hearing voices, but you heard them in your head. And I told him that during the event that you went through, you probably heard them say something like, do not be afraid, we are not going to harm you. Nothing bad is going to happen. (0:17:54)

But it is necessary we show what we could do. If we were really here with hostile intent. He acknowledged that. He never told anybody, no one, about that. Not even his family. And he acknowledged, yes, that is exactly what happened. I have never told no one. And I said, what are you going to do about it? And he said, I am going to go home, hug my wife, tell her I love her, and tell her what happened. (0:18:30)

And to the best of my knowledge, there are a couple of people in the field that know about that. But they have never reached the name of that person. And that is the way it needs to be. It is up to that individual to come forth and tell what really happened, the rest of the story. (0:18:53)

I tell you I have seen a UFO. I tell you that we made a report about it. That certain things happened. I can be comfortable with that. And you can accept that, whether you believe in extraterrestrials or not. But when I tell you the rest of the story, then it becomes very difficult for the person to really comprehend what a person went through. (0:19:23)

Also, it becomes very difficult for the person who has decided to come out of the closet, so to speak. And state that for 20 plus years, I was involved in a program involving the recovery of crashed UFOs and debris thereof. Crashes are very rare. Very rare. However, the recovery of debris or items left behind are not so rare. To be sure, they are pretty common. (0:19:56)

A person that is involved in an incident one time, as this person was, it becomes very difficult for them to tell the whole story, even when they want to. But there are those, in order to have peace of mind, starting with family, they need to tell. And I guess that's the message I want to get out. I have been face to face with visitors from other planets, other than here. (0:20:36)

I had one that's very, very close. Like I say, it stays with me. That individual is called Corona, and it was made clear, always spell it with a K. I don't know what difference it makes, but I was told, my name is Corona, with a K. So, that little entity, it's about four and a half, five foot tall. A lot of people tell me, well, can't you make him gray? No, I can't. He has a greenish tint to him. (0:21:10)

He has a very unique feature of his face, where the skull is larger out here, then it comes into a smaller cheek. The eyes are like teardrop, but with the top of the teardrop toward the inside, slanted a little like this. Two small slits for a nose, and a slit for a mouth. Lips are not dominant or anything like that on this particular entity. (0:21:46)

But yet, you can see emotion within his face. And I say him because during the times that we have had interaction, we have even talked about family situations. Most often, we don't go ahead and think of them being anything like us, to where they have families. We think of them as being genetically created. There is no longer that bonding between the female and the male of the species. (0:22:25)

Well, there is. There is love there. It's not something that is missing from their society. They work towards the common good of their society. Unlike us, where a lot of times we are pulling at one another. There's competition, but the competition is working towards the common good. Not who can do the best job better. It's so hard to put into words. It's almost like a beehive. (0:23:03)

All the bees in a beehive will work towards the common good of the colony within that hive. (0:23:11)

They do have their rogue elements, but when that happens, they are either extracted or killed within a beehive. In this case, they will refer to their being rogue elements. That may be indifferent to the feelings of any other living creatures. When I was in the program, we were always told, not all contact will be of a friendly nature. Now the only time I've seen it where it wasn't of a friendly nature, was when we were the ones that initiated the aggression. (0:23:49)

And it's very human to come up on something that shocks your psychic, that shatters everything that you once believed, and react hostile to that stimulus. And that has happened. Right now we don't shoot at UFOs. We have chase planes, but they have little crosshairs. In the past when we chased planes and we tried to take gun camera footage, when you activated your gun camera, all of your weapons were ready to fire on whatever it is that you were taking the photograph of. (0:24:34)

That can be registered. We can do that. We can say, okay, this person, for whatever reason, is getting a lock on us. And we don't know whether he's shooting at us with a camera, or he's getting ready to unload missiles on us. So that's considered a hostile act, even by our standard. What we do nowadays is that we use the crosshairs where the pilot can go ahead, hit up on the crosshairs, whatever he's seeing in the center of the crosshairs, that's the center of what's going to show up in the gun camera footage. (0:25:09)

It doesn't go through any weapon system. Therefore, no hostile act can be registered, or even be determined to be of such nature. The Russians have yet to learn this. The Russians have lost, by the time I got out, they had lost 27 aircraft in the attempt to shoot down a UFO. The Chinese are getting a sad lesson on it now. They will shoot at anything that comes into their airspace. (0:25:42)

Now, it's not because they are taking defensive actions where they're shooting these planes down. It's just that sometimes, when they use their defensive system, it has an adverse impact on the aircraft fighters trying to shoot them down. But what happens is, they bring these people into the programs, and then they find a whole new world opening up to them. And it's a very scary world, a very lonely world. (0:26:23)

It's a world you can't share with nobody. Now, there is a school, and they will send you to that school. I always fought not to go to that school, because when I met the people who came back from that school, they were different. They were cold, they were callous. They didn't really care about what happened to certain other people. That people that they had to go and talk to, that these people, they were just numbers. (0:27:08)

They were a mission to make sure that they didn't talk. (0:27:14)

And whatever happened to the people, that was not a problem of theirs, that wasn't a concern. They wound up killing themselves, or started having mental problems. Then they would joke about it. And I thought, this is a horrific thing that we're doing, that it shouldn't be that way. And ultimately, one case right here out of New Mexico, where they drove the person insane. (0:27:49)

And I kept trying to talk to the person, look, don't go down that road. But he trusted the very people that he knew were government agents, not to cause that to happen. And trusted them emphatically. And at least one government agent feels pretty badly about what they did to that person. And everyone should. In short, we should be telling the people the truth, that these people aren't crazy. (0:28:23)

They're having, from one degree to another, some type of interaction with our visitors. And we got people out there right now, John Q. Public, that has things bottled up in them. And I mean, this is a large number that have had interaction with our visitors. To a more or less degree of some sort. Who have actually blotted it out of their memory. But they need to know what really happened. And when they start thinking about it, they don't really know where to go and search out answers. (0:29:06)

I can remember seeing the sky, the night sky, filled with stars. Yet, I don't remember it happening before or since. But I do know that I have been in many deserts, many dark areas, on clear, crystal clear nights. In which I could see many stars, but nothing like a couple of events in my life. And the only thing I could say was, part of that I'm blocking out, I have to be blocking it out. (0:29:41)

Because the only way you could have seen all those stars is from a vintage point, where you were not on this planet. That being said, I have no recollection of ever being abducted. I have no recollection of ever being taken into space in one of their craft. But yet, I have clear memory of seeing the sky as... I was awed at it. But I cannot explain why I have that clear memory. (0:30:17)

I don't know what was happening at that time. All I can say for sure, I was standing on level land. There are other things in my life that I have memory of, that don't quite make sense. But when you go ahead and take into consideration the interaction that I know I've had with our visitors. And also know that it's a learning process. Then we need to understand a little bit more about the relationship with our visitors and ourselves. (0:31:02)

Because through me, I don't have to be a genius. But everything I know, they know. Everything I see, they see. If you were over to my house, you would see thousands of CDs. The CDs have documents on them. (0:31:25)

A lot of subjects. Military subjects, space subjects, SDI, UFOs, but UFOs is just part of it. When I go ahead and download those, I'll scan them. I'm not even necessarily reading them. But I know as I scan those, they are picking up on what's there. So whether I have memory of everything that I've seen in the documents, they have memory of everything. And somehow, someway, using me, they can record that information and save it for prosperity. (0:32:05)

They also learn from that information. But they learn from us throughout life. If you're selected for them to, for lack of a better term, study, it starts at an early age. And they live long enough to mourn your death. And there's a reason I say mourn your death. Because there's that relationship. It's hard to explain. It's not like your best friend or something like that. (0:32:40)

But there is that relationship. And that relationship is more like, is more human than what most people would think. But it's also with our visitors. It's hard to explain. It's hard to put into words. And you're okay if you don't dredge it back up. But I have friends that are telling me I need to dredge it back up one time. But I feel so silly because you can't hold the emotion back. (0:33:26)

And... I have at times found myself wishing I could hate everyone and everything. And that way I wouldn't feel the compulsion to try to do something. And I know that's the wrong way to feel about it. But... I can't hate. Even if I was to try to, I couldn't do that. I can't get angry with a person and stay angry with that person. (0:34:14)

I can get angry at a situation. I can feel frustration about a person's deportment or something like that. But I cannot go ahead and get angry, hold malice, toward any individual. I guess it's just a situation where... How do you stop it? How do you stop what's going on? How do you get it out there without the hard evidence to let people know these things are going on? (0:35:02)

I do know that UFO sightings really are, whether they're reported to the media or they're reported anyplace else, UFO sightings are on an increase. Now, in the 50s and 60s, people would report lights in the night sky. Unless there is an event of real high strangeness, people don't report these instances anymore. Once again, even in today's world, if you have an incident of high strangeness, you have the tendency not to report it. (0:35:46)

But I would suggest there's more going on than a person just being within 500 foot of a circular craft or an unusual craft. There's more going on than that person just seeing that craft and a strange-looking being next to it. Or looking up and seeing a craft and seeing a strange-looking being looking out of, for lack of a better term, what they call a window. (0:36:15)

There's some segment there that's missing, that they don't have full understanding of. (0:36:22)

But it will visit them at night because they will have nightmares about it, and they won't understand the nightmares. They will be trying to find answers to certain questions that have come up to them, not understanding the connection to the sighting. So there's more interaction going on than what people really know. And it's going on with a large number of people. And I guess what I'm saying is, we really need to get those people to start talking. (0:36:56)

And it's not just generic to the military, and the military doesn't have a handle on that. And it's not just generic to the U.S., it's worldwide. The government's covering up the knowledge that they have, that some UFOs are, in fact, interplanetary spacecraft, are interdimensional, multidimensional craft. Both can be one and the same. But we have a sentient life, much more evolved, much more intelligent than we are, that are visiting our planet. (0:37:34)

And we're keeping this information from the public. The problem with that is that there is no way any government on the Earth can stop that interaction with these visitors to our planet, with the people of our planet. For example, the reason they used me as an interfacer was because of the events that happened in my childhood and in my teen years. And somehow, someway, they knew about it. (0:38:11)

They can't teach this in school. They have to find people in the civilian sector to bring in to the fold, so to speak. I know for a fact that our government, along with other governments, have some type of social intercourse with our visitors. But at the same time, I know that our visitors are partially responsible for why full disclosure has not taken place yet. (0:38:53)

And that's easily proven. Given that they are here, what power on Earth could stop them from making themselves known, if they wanted to? That being said, I feel that governments need to find a responsible way to start getting the information out that we are not alone in the universe. That there is other life out there. And that life is coming here, visiting our planet. (0:39:28)

And it's for pure scientific purposes, to try to gain a better understanding of us. And hopefully, enlighten us to the point where sometime in the future, we don't wind up destroying ourselves. As a child, I had the situation where I'd have playmates that were invisible. Well, everybody has those, right? Everybody has imaginary friends. Only this was more than that. They wasn't imagined. They were real to me. (0:40:11)

And they would always caution me. Be careful what you say about us. Others can't see us. But they looked very human. At the time, I was always trying to help little animals. If I found an animal hurt, I'd try to nurse it back. I found a little bird once. It had fallen out of its nest. And I took the bird, and it was broken in its beak. (0:40:40)

So I took the bird and held it under a faucet, trying to wash away the blood, trying to help it. (0:40:47)

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Of course, I drowned it. Now, in a child's mind, they don't understand that birds die, and God in his infinite wisdom doesn't have a grieving process like we humans have when we lose a loved one. To me, I murdered that little bird. The mother and father are going to be missing their little baby all because of an action I did. And it really bothered me. I mean, I cried for weeks over that bird. (0:41:17)

But then, the first time I see Corona, as he really is, he appears and he's startled. He wants to know why he's feeling what he is feeling. Why am I feeling what I'm feeling? Because as a result of what I'm feeling, he's feeling it. And I mean, the response, the response wasn't there. I screamed, you know, and I ran to try to find a place to hide. (0:41:53)

The question stood. Why? Why did I feel that way? I couldn't explain why I felt that way. After I overcame my panic, and that's what you would have to call it, because my aunt couldn't even control me. She tried to keep me in a chair, and I wanted to get out of that chair. I wanted to find a place to hide, but there was no place to hide. (0:42:19)

Where do you hide? Where do you run to? But the question, you know, why do you feel this way? Why is it that this bird died? Why do you feel such heavy grief, such heavy pain over doing that? And then the other thing was, why do you try not to cry? Is crying not natural for your species? I'm a kid, I can't answer those questions. (0:42:53)

But, you know, eventually, the thought process, they were picking up on the fact that I was identifying this bird. In human contents, i.e. taking the life of a child. Knowing firsthand, now, at the time I didn't, I could only imagine. But knowing firsthand now, I can even understand a little better. But, to me, the bird had a mother and father. The mother and father is going to miss that bird. (0:43:37)

Their baby. And these were the emotions that was inside of me. When my son passed away, Corona, I think, mourned with me. And I always, even today, I visit his grave. But one day I was praying and Corona said, do you mind if I pray with you? And I said, not a problem, pray in your own way. And he got down on his knees just like we did. (0:44:20)

And people hate this part of it. But, I said, do you have religion? And they said, religion? Isn't that something that's created by man? Do we have faith? Yes, we have faith. Do we believe that there is that which you call God? We accept that based on our science. It's no longer a faith-based ideal that there is a creator, that which you call God. That truly is. (0:44:59)

Do you believe in life after death? Yes, they do. (0:45:03)

They even have means to communicate with their loved ones. It's not some parlor trick. They really have the means to do it. But there are forbidden questions that you can't ask about what happens after death. Otherwise, you ask that, you're cut off immediately. The one thing they cannot tell you, they cannot come up and tell you, that this religion is a true and correct religion, or that religion is a true and correct religion. (0:45:33)

You must worship in your own way. And at this time, I don't really go into why that was such a crucial question that I really needed answers for. And it deals with a document that was out there. That tied in with the connection with my son's death. And what this document was alluding to. It was causing me a lot of mental anguish. Yet, the answers was not offered. (0:46:14)

In short, I had to ask the questions. But it was brought about by the point of, why don't you ask these certain questions? It wasn't, well, we know what you want to know, so here's what the answers are. So it was played out, so to speak. And it was over a period of several days. And they even permitted me to see my son. (0:46:43)

I don't want to talk about that right now, but someday I really need to get that out. Because there were two times that that happened. And they're really beautiful stories, I think. But very hard for me to tell. Well, initially, when I tried to enlist in the military, I was found 4F. I went to Fort Hayes in Columbus, Ohio, for my examination to go into the military. (0:47:20)

And that was in December 1967. Once I was there, and I took all the tests, passed all the tests with flying colors. But they found some medical problems, and they said, you're never going to get in the military. At that time, they had the draft going on. I left Asheville, Ohio, and moved back down to Portsmouth, Ohio. And once I got back down to Portsmouth, Ohio, in late June, I received a letter directing me to report to Ashland, Kentucky, for re-evaluation. And of course I knew it made no difference that I wasn't going to get in. (0:47:57)

But when I got there, didn't lie on the form or nothing. But there was an officer there, a medical officer, who said, do you really want in? Of course I did. At that time, I was very patriotic. It was God, country, moms, apple pie. If my country was doing something, it was okayed by God. That's the way I felt about it. But I managed to get in. (0:48:20)

The officer told me, he says, well anytime you want out, all you have to do is tell them about your medical problems. And I said, you get me in, I'm not getting out. So once I got in, I went through BASIC, I went through AIT, got my first duty assignment. (0:48:34)

But initially going through BASIC, nothing really happened other than just basic training. When I went to AIT, I went to Fort Jackson, South Carolina. Their intelligence office there, they would send students that was taking schools there, they'd send them over to different places in work detail. On the fourth day of being there, I was sent to the intelligence office to do clean up in there, empty the trash cans, mop the floors, buff them out, wax them. (0:49:06)

There was one gentleman there that was there on a special assignment from Washington. And we started to talk. When we started to talk, he started to show me things. And some of the things he showed me was photographs, some documents, and I knew what top secret meant at the time. I also knew I shouldn't be seeing them because I didn't have a top secret clearance. (0:49:26)

There were words that was past the top secret. And I didn't understand what those words were at the time. I didn't understand in parentheses at the beginning of every paragraph what that was all about. But I did know top secret. I did know I wasn't supposed to be seeing these. And initially he asked me, how do you feel about UFOs? Well, my mom didn't raise any fools, so I knew that military and UFOs didn't mix. (0:49:57)

So I said, oh, I don't give it much thought. And he laughed and says, come on, I don't really believe that. Everybody thinks about them. And I said, no, sir. I said, I don't think we should be carrying on this conversation. He says, well, let me show you some stuff. Then he showed me and I said, sir, are you sure you should be showing me this? (0:50:15)

And he says, nope. I said, yes, I know I shouldn't be showing it to you. But you need to see it. I said, well, we could get in trouble. And I don't think I should look at it. And he said, okay. Back up, regroup. I'm not showing you anything I'm not supposed to. You will understand later on. But I started to spend a lot of time doing this stuff. (0:50:43)

But I never went to class. I never typed on a typewriter while I was there at Fort Jackson, South Carolina. Yet, when I got out, they said I could type 73 words a minute. When I went to my first duty station, which was at Fort Lee, Virginia, 36 Civil Affairs, I proudly advised my first sergeant that the one thing he should know about me, since I was a clerk typist, I couldn't type. (0:51:11)

And he looked at me kind of strange. And I was going through my records. He says, yeah, well, obviously you don't know the difference between the branches of service. Now, I didn't understand what he meant by that. But he took my records, went in to see the unit commander. The unit commander came out. And he said, are you colorblind? (0:51:33)

I said, no, sir. He says, what color uniform are you wearing? I said, green, sir. He said, okay. And that's all that was ever said. And the first sergeant says, well, we have to put you someplace. He says, we need a unit NBCNCO. How would you like to be the unit NBCNCO? And that stands for Nuclear Biological Chemical Warfare. So I said, sure, I wouldn't mind doing that. (0:51:58)

He said, it requires no typing. Which wasn't actually true. It did. So what little typing it was required, I could hunt and pack on the typewriter. And I had an old Remington typewriter. They didn't have the electric typewriters at that time. So I went ahead, got that position. But in order to be in that position, you had to go to school. And the school lasted three weeks. (0:52:23)

So I was sent TDY to Fort McClellan, Alabama. Once I got to Fort McClellan, Alabama, I went, completed my school, and then came back to my unit. Once I got back to my unit, 36 Civil Affairs, while I was at Fort McClellan, I met a friend of mine. We hung around together all the time. And he was Army ASA, Army Security Agency. And he was stationed out of Fort Belvoir, Virginia. And he was directly assigned to the NSA. Anyhow, he invited me to come down to visit with him sometime. (0:53:02)

And I said, sure, I'll try to do that. Anyhow, getting back to where I go, back to my unit. I went to my unit, started to set up my office inside the NBC room. I also had the requirement of taking care of our communications equipment, like the switchboard, the field phones, the PRIC-25s, which were field radios, the PRIC-46s, which were vehicle-mounted radios. And in the process of doing that, I was assigned to what was called an NBC quick reaction team. (0:53:41)

Now, these were all over the United States, nothing mystique about them, other than what their assignment is. Should there be an NBC incident or event, then you would go ahead and have one of these teams move out. And they had to move out in such a way that they had two different teams. Even today, it's the same way. They had A team and B team. (0:54:04)

A team would move out and had to be on location within two hours. B team, which was a backup team, had to be there within four. So, I'd be put on alert status when we would be called up to do it, and each unit would provide for that. One day, there was a requirement that the NBC officers go to Fort Belvoir, Virginia, to go ahead and get some additional training. (0:54:31)

So, I drove our OIC, which is officer in charge, of our team to Fort Belvoir, Virginia. Upon arriving at Fort Belvoir, Virginia, there was this old theater-like, and all the officers weren't there. We stayed on the outside, the drivers did. (0:54:48)

Along about chow time, the drivers decided they were going to go to the snack bar. I didn't have a whole lot of money at that time, because I sent most of my money back to my mother. But I made some sandwiches and stuff of this sort and took with me, so I'd have something to eat, you know. And there was an airman there. (0:55:08)

And with both of us being there, we decided, well, let's go inside and see if we can find a place to eat. Both of us went inside. There were no heavily armed guards, which everyone says that seems strange, and I admit it seems strange. But we went in with no problem. We saw this stairway leading up to the balcony, so we thought we'd go on up there, because the officers were still in the auditorium. (0:55:33)

So we thought we'd just go up there and sit and eat. So we went on upstairs, we looked out, and when we looked out, they were showing movies. And the film they were showing showed a typical UFOs, a typical different types of aliens, both dead and alive. The movie was made up of both stills and film footage. And we first thought, well, they're watching science fiction trailers. (0:56:03)

And it was kind of like levity put into some serious subject, we thought. So while we watched what was going on, we tried to identify the movies, because both of us thought we had seen quite a few sci-fi movies. But we couldn't identify the movies from which the film clips were from. Then all of a sudden we realized we wasn't alone in the room. (0:56:26)

We went ahead, was escorted out, actually pushed most of the time down the stairs. And they kept telling us, do we have any understanding or idea what kind of trouble we were in. They had a panel van on the outside, meaning it had no windows or nothing. They put us inside of that, pushed us inside of that panel van. Did not have no lights on, it was total dark back there. (0:56:52)

Drove us to an undisclosed location. And I don't want to get into it at this time, but for four nights and five days with me, I was put through what they call intensified interrogation. The airman, he got out of it a little earlier. When I got back to my unit, we were both told never to say anything about what happened to anyone. When I got back to my unit, it was on a Friday night. (0:57:25)

The only thing I wanted to do was get some sleep. So I went to bed. Saturday morning I woke up by the CQ charge of quarters. And he directed me to go down to the 1st Sergeant's office, that I was needed there in the orderly room. So I went on to the orderly room, went to the 1st Sergeant's office, and the 1st Sergeant wasn't there. (0:57:48)

Then I was called in the unit commander's office. (0:57:51)

When I went back there, the two gentlemen that were doing the intensified interrogation, they were there. So they went ahead and asked me what happened for the week. And I said, what do you mean? Well, you were AWOL for a week. And I said, no sir, I was not AWOL. What were you doing? I was following orders. And these were the same two people that put me through the interrogation. (0:58:21)

And they said, no, you were not here for the week. I said, I wasn't here, but I was following orders. And they said, okay, are you going to tell us where you were at or not? So I was wondering what was going on. So I uttered something to the effect that, you know what happened. You were there. Then one of them went really ballistic, for lack of a better term. (0:58:46)

And he went ahead and said, I told you we should have shot him. I told you we should have not let him just leave there. And he even pulled out a weapon. And I said, we've got to shoot him right now to ensure he keeps quiet. We'll call it a training accident. Well, what happened was, the other guy said, calm down, calm down, go get us some sandwiches and coffee. (0:59:08)

So he went out, ranting and raving as he went out. So finally he went ahead. The guy had stayed behind. And now I'd call it the good cop, bad cop routine. He went ahead and was talking to me and says, look, you know that UFOs are real. You have had experiences. And your country needs to utilize you in those experiences. We want to make you a part of a team which isn't put together. (0:59:40)

It's loosely knit. You do your job here. But in the event of a UFO event, our incident, within this location, you would be utilized. Now, if you're willing to do that, we'll go ahead and forget about the AWOL. If you're willing to do that, you will be made to understand certain things that we know. But you will also be in a position to learn a whole lot more. (1:00:09)

And it makes no real difference. By the end of the year, the truth is going to come out anyhow. Well, they were talking about the condom committee report. At the end of the year, it came out, but did not say anything about the reality of UFOs. By the end of the year, I knew what our government was doing. But initially, I said, well, no, I really don't want to do this. (1:00:35)

And they went ahead and said, well, we'd like for you to change your mind because you could be court-martialed for that, for the AWOL. It says the one thing you can really be court-martialed for is that you're in the wrong branch of service. Well, I was just a young kid at that time. And I couldn't understand what you mean, the wrong branch of service. (1:00:55)

I said, I'm going to give you my enlistment contract. (1:00:58)

He says, what does it say here you enlisted you? I said, it says Army. He says, read it. I said, I've been in the Army for what, eight months now? And he says, read it. The oath has United States Air Force. The front of the DED Form 4, on the very first page, said that I had read and understood Air Force Form 117. I wasn't in the Air Force, I was in the Army. So they were making it as though this was a terrible breach of my contract. (1:01:35)

And I had cost the U.S. taxpayer a lot of money. Now all I had to do was re-enlist for three years, go ahead, do what they wanted me to do, and play ball with the program. And I would be able to go ahead and have my records changed where it said Army. There would be no charges brought up against me. And I was told I had until Monday to make the decision. (1:02:09)

Monday morning, one of two things would happen. I would be hit up on charges, charge sheets would be drawn up, and an Article 32 investigation pursued. Which was an investigation to determine if there was sufficient evidence to take you to trial. And I was appraised of the fact that there was sufficient evidence to take me to trial. So after they hit up on that for the weekend, I still felt uncomfortable re-enlisting. But I decided, fine, I'd do it. (1:02:46)

So I re-enlisted. And it wasn't a choice. Monday morning, I re-enlisted. End of discussion. They had the paperwork already done. And they were pretty sure I was going to. That's why they had the paperwork done. But I went ahead and took my re-enlistment. Got that, and nothing happened for some time. Then we had a situation where the initial situation was at Indiantown Gap, Pennsylvania. We went there on a field training exercise. (1:03:21)

Being a civil affairs unit, they had certain scenarios they had to play out. Well, while we were there at that particular location, we were notified that there was an NBC incident that occurred, and that a plane went down, and it had radiological equipment on it, or radiological weapons. So we had to move out. There was already a team there when we got there, and they had everything set up. (1:03:50)

But once we got there, upon our arrival, as we got closer and closer to the mountain of earth, we could see that there was an aircraft there. But none of us could identify what the craft was. I drove a Deuce and a half, because the Deuce and a half had all money-filled equipment. The radios, the switchboard, the NBC equipment. Upon getting there, they went ahead and told me that, you know, they wanted me to go towards the object itself and take radiological readings. (1:04:30)

I went towards it, and as I got closer and closer, the readings would go up, but then they'd go down, up, down. (1:04:39)

I now know why that happened. It's the propulsion system. The propulsion system they use will initially give off a lot of background radiation, but it dissipates in a matter of minutes. But they wanted me to go ahead and get as close to the object as I could. So I kept going, and I got up to where I could look down into the mound where it was at. (1:05:09)

The craft was like a heel shape, and they had a canopy, but on each side of the canopy. And the only way I can describe it is like a kidney-shaped hatch that was open, and there was a body lying out there, and you could immediately tell it wasn't human. I started to call for an officer, because I needed an officer to come there to see what I was seeing. (1:05:39)

This wasn't real, this wasn't something that was supposed to be happening. And they told me, no, just describe what you're seeing. And I said, no, I really need an officer up here. I said, you don't understand, I really need an officer up here. No one came. Eventually they said, that's fine, so I'm going back down. Then they told me to go back into the deuce and a half. (1:06:08)

That some field phones had already been set up from there, I would operate the switchboard SP-22. And I was to stay there until I was later notified to come out. That all rations of the day would be C rations, and there were C rations in the truck. I wasn't to look out of the truck or nothing else from that point on. So that was the initial start. (1:06:31)

And from there on, there were other events that occurred. A lot of people think that you're in a unit just waiting for the next UFO event. That's not it. You actually had a real job you did in the military. But you had a double life. And on more and more occasions, we had situations where we were called out. There in the United States, I had several. (1:07:02)

In Germany, I had several, which covered all of Europe. In Vietnam, we had several incidences. But I think the biggest thing about going on these events was you couldn't talk to nobody. You had to keep it bottled up. You couldn't tell your family what you were doing. Being a clerk, I shouldn't go all that TDY. I shouldn't be gone for weeks, months at a time. (1:07:36)

Mommy kids, they didn't understand that. And just this last month, I went on vacation. My two sons were throwing it up to me about, Dad, you missed out on a lot of occasions with us. And I tried to explain to them it wasn't because I didn't want to be there. But I've already told them events that happened. And my oldest son started to recall what I had said prior with the death of my son in 1995. Because then I started to tell him. (1:08:12)

My granddaughter, I think I've told the most to because she asked. (1:08:16)

And she really took an interest in what I was saying about what happened. But I think people that were involved in this, the people who went out there and did the recoveries, who've seen the things that they have to live with day to day, they really need to tell their families. I got disillusioned with it when I found out the things we were doing to people. (1:08:45)

I got disillusioned with it when I found out, knowing the truth, we would cause people to lose their families, lose their jobs. And at times, it would even take their lives. And to me, there was nothing right about this. What purpose can it serve by telling these people who've had these events, who actually were the response people, who went to these locations where these events took place, to try to tell them that there's a mosaic explanation, when they knew better. (1:09:22)

But the end result, they're traumatized, and there isn't no help out there. If you go and tell somebody about a UFO event or experience you had, immediately, your sanity comes into question. Immediately, people question your integrity. And that's what these people have to deal with. So what do you do? You bottle it up, and you say nothing. That's the safe thing. But it really isn't safe, because it comes back to haunt you. (1:09:57)

So right now, what I would like is for people who have been out there, who have been involved in this, to tell their families what they were involved with. I had an officer, and a lot of you people in the field know him. When I talked to him in Washington, D.C., he was involved in an incident. He came up and he asked me, how did they talk? (1:10:21)

I said, you heard them in your head. I said, it was just like you and I talking right now. And you thought you were hearing voices, but you heard them in your head. And I told him that during the event that you went through, you probably heard them say something like, do not be afraid, we are not going to harm you. Nothing bad is going to happen. (1:10:53)

But it is necessary we show what we could do, if we were really here with hostile intent. He acknowledged that. He never told anybody, no one, about that. Not even his family. And he acknowledged, yes, that is exactly what happened. I have never told no one. And I said, what are you going to do about it? And he said, I am going to go home, have my wife, tell her I love her, and tell her what happened. (1:11:30)

And to the best of my knowledge, there are a couple of people in the field that know about that. But they have never reached the name of that person. And that is the way it needs to be. It is up to that individual to come forth and tell what really happened, the rest of the story. (1:11:53)

I tell you I have seen a UFO. I tell you that we made a report about it, that certain things happened. I can be comfortable with that. And you can accept that. Whether you believe in extraterrestrials or not. But when I tell you the rest of the story, then it becomes very difficult for the person to really comprehend what a person went through. (1:12:22)

Also, it becomes very difficult for the person who has decided to come out of the closet, so to speak, and state that for 20 plus years, I was involved in a program involving the recovery of crashed UFOs and debris thereof. Crashes are very rare. Very rare. The recovery of debris or items left behind are not so rare. To be sure, they are pretty common. (1:12:56)

A person that's involved in an incident one time, as this person was, it becomes very difficult for them to tell the whole story, even when they want to. But there are those, in order to have peace of mind, starting with family, they need to tell. And I guess that's the message I want to get out. If we keep going in the direction we're going in, we ultimately are going to fall victim to our own technology, and ultimately destroy ourselves. (1:13:40)

Either you go spiritually with your technology, or you fall victim to it. Here it is. We say the Cold War is over. The threat of nuclear exchange is behind us. But we've already fallen victim. Because terrorists are thinking about using dirty bombs. The greed of man provides the materials to do that. The desire to not have secrets, have it on the internet on how you can make a dirty bomb. (1:14:19)

So, it's not the governments anymore that is in total charge of that awesome technology. They can't do as good at it as organized governments can in laboratories, making all the nice nuclear weapons and all the nice ballistic missiles as delivery systems. But they can make crude weapons. And I would remind everybody that a Stone Age spear can kill you just as easy as an AR-15 can today. (1:14:55)

So it doesn't have to be a highly sophisticated device, nuclear device, which would be a dirty bomb. But you would also have the aftermath of it going off. We really need to get to the point where we start to become more spiritual in our involvement with one another. We have to care what happens to one another. And I'm not talking religion here. I'm talking about what's in every person. (1:15:33)

There's that drive to really want to care what happens to other people. There is that adage, once we go ahead and get to that spiritual plateau where we can really apply it within our lives, that there but for the grace of God go I. And if we get to the point where we really want to go ahead and be concerned about the other person, this world's going to be a much, much better world to live in. (1:16:02)

Until that happens, we are a world in quarantine. (1:16:08)

We will be able to explore our own little solar system. We will be able to look beyond the envelope. But we won't be able to go out and explore the cosmos. We will fall victim to our technology long before that happens. Unless we grow spiritually. If we grow spiritually, the day isn't too awful far off then that we will be going into the cosmos. (1:16:41)

We will be visiting other worlds. At some point, we will be the aliens. And we will be someone else's UFOs. Well, upon my arrival in Roswell, New Mexico, I was assigned to the ROTC unit here at NIMI. Some of the people that was over me did not like the idea that I was involved in UFOs. So they gave me what they called a lawful order not to go ahead, filled FOIA acts for information, not to correspond with senators, not to go ahead and correspond with anybody in any type of government agency dealing with UFOs or requesting information on UFOs. I considered that an illegal order. (1:17:43)

So I continued to do it. The end result was they went ahead, they relieved me of my duty. They forced me to undergo a psychological evaluation, which dare I say I came through it with flying colors. The one nice thing about it was they said, guy's not crazy. If he's done something he should be court-martialed for, by all means, court-martialed. They tried to go ahead and force me to retire. (1:18:18)

Then they wanted to go ahead and process a disciplinary discharge on me. I resisted all of that. At one point, my executive officer called me into his office and said, okay, you're going to tell me everything you know about UFOs. We're not leaving until you do. I said, well sir, do you mind if I smoke? And he said, no, go right ahead, it's time I smoke cigars. (1:18:45)

So I lit up a cigar. And he says, okay, you ready to talk? I said, you going to call your wife, sir? And he said, why do I need to call my wife? I said, because sir, if you're waiting for me to tell you anything, it's going to be a cold day in hell and we're going to be here for a long time. (1:19:04)

This is information your wife should know. He then went ahead and said, well, I'm not mad at you. I just don't think you should be doing this. And besides, what difference does it make to you if the Pentagon has 50 flying saucers of extraterrestrial origin? At which time I told him, sir, you have the luxury of not knowing the truth. Unfortunately, I do not share that same luxury. (1:19:34)

(2025-07-03)