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Darren King の説く「象徴的宇宙の再帰的啓示」⇒ 根本的な欠陥

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前置き​

Darren King (ExoAcademian) の Podcast から取り上げる。彼の主張を AI(NotebookLM plus) で整理させた。その上で、彼の主張が抱える根本的な欠陥を指摘する。

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象徴的宇宙の再帰的啓示

Darren King（ExoAcademian）のポッドキャスト**「Point of Convergence」のエピソード115の文字起こしからの抜粋は、現代のUFO現象が提示する、物理的な証拠と非日常的な体験という相反する側面を探求しています。

この現象、そして臨死体験やシンクロニシティといった関連する概念は、現実の本質が物理的世界よりも深い領域にあることを示唆しています。さらに、元型や占星術といった象徴的なシステムが、経験に意味と意図があることを示唆しており、自己は多次元的であり、時間外に存在する「深層自己」によって人生の出来事が意図的に編成されている**という考えにつながっています。

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115 - Refractions of the Deep Self

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ブリーフィング文書：象徴的宇宙の再帰的啓示

出典: Darren King (ExoAcademian) による Podcast "115 - Refractions of the Deep Self" 文字起こし

日付: 2023年11月26日

概要:​

このブリーフィング文書は、Darren King (ExoAcademian) によるポッドキャスト「Point of Convergence」のエピソード115の内容を要約し、その主要なテーマ、最も重要な考え、および事実をレビューします。

このエピソードは、「象徴的宇宙の再帰的啓示」と題されており、UFO現象、臨死体験、シンクロニシティ、元型、占星術といった一見かけ離れた現象が、現実、自己、および存在の真の性質に関する単一の深遠な真実へと収束することを探求しています。この中心的な考えは、我々が「現実世界」と呼ぶものが、より広範で包含的な領域に対する従属的なものである可能性があり、自己もまた時空を超えて存在する、よりダイナミックで多面的なアイデンティティの断片的表現であるというものです。

主要なテーマ:​

  1. UFO現象の二面性:

UFO現象は、レーダー、物理的な痕跡、目撃証言といった「現実世界」の証拠に裏打ちされる一方で、予知、過去生記憶、内部が外部より大きい空間といった、現実の理解に反する要素も含む。この二面性が、現象を「まったく相容れない」ものに見せている。

  1. 「現実世界」の非現実性:

UFOコンタクトや臨死体験のような「非日常的な体験」における証言は、我々が「現実世界」と呼ぶものが、これらの体験が起こる存在様式よりも「何らかの形で現実感が低い」ことを示唆している。これは、「現実世界」が一つ以上の包含的な領域の従属であり、自己も時空を超えた「はるかにダイナミックで多面的なアイデンティティの切り詰められ、断片的な表現」であるという可能性を示唆する。

  1. 現実の象徴的・現実的性質:

人生の経験は、目覚めている状態と夢の状態の区別のように、「現実であるか象徴的であるか」ではなく、「同時にその両方として」生じている。この洞察は、自己の性質と存在の性質に「深遠な意味合い」を持つ。

  1. 元型と占星術:

元型（深層の象徴的幾何学）と占星術は、意識、経験、変容のパターンをマッピングする象徴的システムとして、我々の現実体験と「当惑するほどの精度」で一致する。これは、現実の中心にある物理主義の自然主義的仮定に疑問を投げかける。

  1. シンクロニシティと意味駆動型の現実:

ユングとパウリは、「現実世界」を支えるのが、「シンクロニシティが支配する意味の場」であると結論付けた。人生の出来事は、ランダムではなく、「意味によって駆動されて」発生しているように見える。これは、「人生が私たちに起こるのではなく、私たちのために起こっている」という考えにつながる。

  1. 自己と接触としてのUFO現象:

UFOコンタクトは、自己との接触であり、訪れる「他者」は、集合意識、すなわち「高次の自己社会記憶複合体」、あるいは「深い無意識の知性」の象徴的または文字通りの投影である可能性がある。これらの遭遇は、「謎へのイニシエーション」、「自我境界の溶解」、「時間の歪み」、「象徴的に話すメッセージを伝える知性との遭遇」といった元型的変容体験を映し出している。

  1. 多次元的自己:

我々は、時空を超えて存在する「深層自己」または「オーバーソウル」と呼ばれる多次元的存在であり、この物理的な現れは、このより広範な自己の断片である。占星術の正確性は、この「オーバーソウル」が特定の現れのために最も強力な元型的テーマを反映するために誕生の瞬間を「意識的に選んでいる」ことによる可能性がある。

  1. 時間は意味であり順序ではない:

時間は線形的な順序ではなく、意味に満ちた織物である。占星術における出生図は、瞬間を「因果的ではなく、象徴的に」捉えたスナップショットである。時間のトランジットや進行が内的状態と一致することは、「プシュケとコスモスの間の深遠な同期」、「非局所的な意味の場」を示唆している。

  1. 意識としての宇宙:

宇宙は不活性ではなく、「意識的で対話的」である。UFOコンタクト、占星術のトランジット、元型的夢のような出来事は、すべて「意識の統一体内の自己生成的な学習ベクトル」である可能性がある。

  1. タイムループとレトロ因果律:

未来の出来事が現在または過去に影響を与えるという考え（レトロ因果律）は、意識がそのタイムライン全体と「非局所的に絡み合っている」ことを示唆する。「深層自己」は、時空を超えて存在し、発展を導き、修正または統合を開始し、気づきを生み出すために、「触媒的な出来事」を戦略的に挿入することができる。

  1. シミュレーションのような現実:

我々が物理的な現実と考えるものは、「意識の進化のために設定された構築物」である可能性がある。この「シミュレーションのような」構造は、没入感のある体験を提供するために内部的に一貫している必要があるが、科学的な測定を満たすために網羅的に自己一貫性がある必要はない。物理法則の失敗や構造の崩壊は、「根底にある意味駆動型の目的」のヒントを提供する。

  1. 再帰的な啓示としての現実:

現実はそれ自体が一種の「再帰的な啓示」として現れる。これは、意味が現実から離れて存在するのではなく、現実自体が啓示であり、それは「再帰的に駆動されている」ことを意味する。

重要な考えと事実:​

  • UFO現象には、物理的な証拠と、現在の物理学や現実の理解に反する「高次の奇妙さ」の両方が存在する。
  • 臨死体験やUFOコンタクトの証言は、「現実世界」がより包含的な領域の従属であり、自己が多次元的であるという可能性を示唆している。
  • 元型は、ユングと深遠接触資料（Raw Contact material）によると、現実の「根底にある象徴的な幾何学」であり、「ロコス」、または「創造的な原理」が自己を探求するための「象徴的なアーキテクチャ」である。元型は単なる物語のモチーフではなく、「スピリチュアルな文法」である。
  • 元型システムは、文明ごとにユニークであり、これはそれぞれの「ロゴイ」（集合意識のアイデンティティ）によって形成される。太陽系の場合、太陽が我々の文明の「サブロゴス」と見なされる。
  • 占星術の出生図とトランジットの正確性は、誕生の瞬間に特定の元型的テーマが「オーバーソウル」によって選択されることによる、意味に基づくシンクロニシティを示唆している。これは、原因と結果ではなく、「プシュケとコスモスの間の共鳴」を反映している。
  • UFOコンタクトは、外部の存在との物理的な遭遇であると同時に、「自己のより高い次元のバージョン」によって調整された象徴的で触媒的な体験である可能性がある。これらの遭遇は、トラウマを含む困難なものである場合もあるが、多くの場合、より深い自己感覚への統合と変容につながる。
  • 時間は線形的な流れとして認識されるが、経験は意味的な接続に基づいて並べ替えられることがあり、これは時間が意味であり順序ではないという考えを支持する。
  • レトロ因果律とタイムループは、未来の自己や集合意識からのフィードバックが現在の選択や状況に影響を与えることを示唆し、線形的な因果律モデルに疑問を投げかける。
  • 現実は「シミュレーションのような」構造を持つ可能性があり、その目的は意識の進化のための「体験的学習アーキテクチャ」を提供することである。
  • これらの様々な現象（UFO、臨死体験、シンクロニシティ、元型、占星術、レトロ因果律）の収束は、「象徴的で参加型のコスモス」、自己が複数の次元とタイムラインにわたってオーケストレーションされた体験を通じて自己を啓示する再帰的な現実を示唆している。

引用:​

  • 「これらの要素には、未来の出来事の予知、この生涯を超えた生涯からの記憶（人間以外の形態を含む）、内部が外部よりはるかに大きく見える空間との遭遇、環境内の動き（時には体とともに、時にはなしで）などが含まれる。」 (0:01:27)
  • 「臨死体験だけでなく、接触現象においても生じるもう一つの重要な要素は、私たちが『現実世界』と呼ぶものが、これらのいわゆる非日常的な体験が起こる存在様式や状態よりも何らかの形で現実感が低いという不気味な感覚です。」 (0:01:27)
  • 「もし私たちがこれらの証言を額面通りに受け取るなら、私たちが長い間『現実世界』と呼んできたものは、実際には一つ以上の包含的な領域に対する従属であり、私たちが自己と呼ぶものさえも、時空を超えて存在する、はるかにダイナミックで多面的なアイデンティティの切り詰められ、断片的な表現であるように思われます。」 (0:02:14)
  • 「これらのいわゆる高次の奇妙さはすべて収束し、真に驚くべきより深い真実を指し示しています。すなわち、私たちの人生の経験は、目覚めている状態と夢の状態の現実における長年の区別のように、現実として生じているのでも、象徴として生じているのでもなく、同時にその両方として生じているということです。」 (0:02:59)
  • 「この現象が提示するように見えるのは、単なる体験だけでなく、象徴的であると同時に現実であるという人生への反映です。」 (0:09:24)
  • 「カール・ユングやヴォルフガング・パウリのような人々は、20世紀にこれを調査し、人生は実際にはシンクロニスティックであると結論付けました。私たちが経験し、基礎現実であると想定している物理現実を支えているのは、シンクロニシティが支配する意味の場、と言ってもいいでしょう。」 (0:09:24)
  • 「占星術におけるチャートの正確性—そして信じてください、あなたがそれをやってもらえば、それらが非常に正確であることがわかるでしょう—はその精度は惑星の影響によるものではなく、むしろ現れ（すなわち私たちの誕生）の瞬間が、特定の現れに必要な最も強力な元型的テーマを反映するために、意識的に、またはより高次の自己、より深い自己、私が以前に呼んだオーバーソウルによって選択されているためです。」 (0:29:40)
  • 「占星術、UFO接触のモチーフ、そして元型的深層心理学の間の深い一致は、宇宙がランダムではなく、むしろ深く意識的で対話的であることを示唆しています。」 (0:34:38)
  • 「そして、最終的に、これらすべては何を示唆しているのでしょうか？それは、オーバーソウルである深層自己が、現れのオーケストラを指揮していることを示唆しています。」 (0:51:30)
  • 「このすべてを総合すると、意識が時間、アイデンティティ、そして見かけ上の他性を通して重ねられた象徴的な表現を通して自己に自己を啓示するという構造において、現実は自己照応的であると指摘されます。これがキーワードです、見かけ上の。」 (0:37:29)
  • 「私たちが物理的な現実、物理的な宇宙と考えるものは、それ自体が意識の進化のために設定された構築物であるということです。」 (0:49:36)
  • 「全体として、これは彼らだけの問題ではないということを意味します。」 (0:48:19) - UFOコンタクトについて言及
  • 「そして、そのプロセスの中で、我々はジャズ即興演奏のようなものも目にします。そこでは、今回は個々の現れの人生を表すソリストが、豊かに参加的で生きた、そして常に進化するプロセスで、オーバーソウルにフィードバックする選択をします。」 (0:51:30)

結論:​

Darren Kingは、UFO現象、臨死体験、シンクロニシティ、元型、占星術といった現象の深層を探求し、これらの現象が単一の統一された現実像、すなわち「象徴的で参加型のコスモス」へと収束するという強力な論を展開しています。この現実像では、物理的な現実と象徴的な現実、自己と他者、

線形時間と非線形時間の区別は崩壊し、意識が宇宙の中心にあり、多次元的自己が自己を啓示するために経験をオーケストレーションします。この視点は、現代の西洋文明における支配的な物理主義的パラダイムに挑戦し、人生を意味と目的に満ちた「再魅惑的な」ものとして捉え直すことを促します。

timeline と主要関係者

タイムライン：​

  • 20世紀:カール・ユングとヴォルフガング・パウリが、人生がシンクロニシティ的であり、物理的現実の根底には意味の場が存在すると結論づける。（正確な年代は不明）
  • 現代UFO現象の始まり以降（年代不明）：現代のUFO現象が認識され始める。物理的な証拠と、非日常的な体験の証言という二つの側面が顕在化する。
  • 過去数ヶ月以内（ポッドキャスト収録時点）：ExoAcadamian（Darren King）が、ヒューストンとデンバーで多次元的な自己についてのプレゼンテーションを行う。
  • 最近（ポッドキャスト収録時点）：ルパート・シェルドレイクが「太陽は意識を持っているのか？」と題する記事を執筆し、天体の意識の可能性を探る。
  • Darren KingとNathanが「Liminal Frames」の最新エピソードでタイムループと逆因果律について探求する。
  • Darren KingがPoint of Convergenceポッドキャストのエピソード115「115 - Refractions of the Deep Self」を収録・公開し、ハイ・ストレンジネス、シンクロニシティ、UFO現象、集合意識、多次元的な自己、非線形時間、逆因果律、象徴と現実の同時性、再帰的な啓示としての現実といったテーマを探求する。

登場人物：​

  • ExoAcadamian (Darren King): Point of Convergenceポッドキャストのホスト。ハイ・ストレンジネス、UFO現象、意識、現実の性質、多次元的な自己といったテーマを探求・分析している。パトレオンやSpotifyでの購読を通じて、追加のポッドキャストコンテンツやオンラインクラス、リトリートを提供している。
  • カール・ユング (Carl Jung): 20世紀の著名な心理学者。ヴォルフガング・パウリと共に、人生におけるシンクロニシティと、物理的現実の根底にある意味の場という概念を探求した人物として言及されている。
  • ヴォルフガング・パウリ (Wolfgang Pauli): 20世紀の著名な物理学者。カール・ユングと共に、人生におけるシンクロニシティと、物理的現実の根底にある意味の場という概念を探求した人物として言及されている。
  • マイク・ゼレン (Mike Thelen): ExoAcadamianの友人。UFO現象に伴うフクロウの出現について、このテーマに関する本を複数執筆した人物として言及されている。
  • L&L Research Group: チャネリングされた「Raコンタクトマテリアル」を含む様々なチャネリング情報を受け取ったチーム。カーラがこのチームの一員として言及されている。
  • カーラ (Carla): L&L Research Groupのメンバーであり、RaやQuoといった存在をチャネリングした人物。
  • Ra: L&L Research Groupによってチャネリングされた、集合意識である社会記憶複合体。現実の構造、次元（密度）、アーキタイプについて教えを伝えた存在として言及されている。
  • Quo: L&L Research Groupによってチャネリングされた、Raに非常に似た社会記憶複合体。太陽（サブロゴイ）が惑星の集団意識のアーキタイプ的な側面をどのように形作るかについて述べた存在として言及されている。
  • ジョン・マック (John Mack): 著名な心理学者であり、UFOアブダクション体験者の研究を行った人物。彼の研究所とアーカイブは、体験者が経験する圧倒的な性質と深い自己変容を結びつける研究として言及されている。
  • ストリーバー夫妻 (the Striebers): 恐らくコメンテーターであるかは不明だが、アブダクション体験に関する証言を集めた「Communion Letters」に関与した人物として言及されている。
  • スージー・ハンセン (Suzy Hansen): UFO体験者。宇宙船に乗船中、人間のアイデンティティとグレイのアイデンティティが同時に存在したという体験をした人物として言及されている。
  • ルパート・シェルドレイク (Rupert Sheldrake): 生物学者。最近「太陽は意識を持っているのか？」と題する記事を執筆し、天体の意識の可能性を探求した人物として言及されている。
  • ネイサン (Nathan): Point of ConvergenceポッドキャストでExoAcadamianと共に「Liminal Frames」のエピソードを探求した人物。タイムループと逆因果律について共に議論した人物として言及されている。
  • ドナルド・ホフマン (Donald Hoffman): 認知心理学者。私たちが知覚する現実は単なるインターフェースであり、世界を理解するためのアイコンの使用であるという彼の考えが言及されている。
  • ヴァレ (Vallee): 恐らくジャック・ヴァレ（Jacques Vallee）のこと。高ストレンジネスがバグではなく特徴であるという彼の考えや、UFO現象とシャーマニックな伝統との間の不気味な重複・平行性について言及されている。

対話​

Me: timeline にある

  • 「高ストレンジネスがバグではなく特徴であるという彼の考えや、UFO現象とシャーマニックな伝統との間の不気味な重複・平行性について言及されている。」

についてできるだけ詳しく説明して。

AI

提供されたソースによると、ユーザーが参照されている「高ストレンジネスがバグではなく特徴であるという彼の考えや、UFO現象とシャーマニックな伝統との間の不気味な重複・平行性」という記述は、ポッドキャストのエピソード115で議論されている重要な点です。これらの概念は、UFO現象や他の「高ストレンジネス」な体験が、私たちの現実、自己、そして宇宙の本質についての理解にどのように深く関わっているかを示唆しています。

まず、「高ストレンジネスがバグではなく特徴である」という考え方についてです。 ジャック・ヴァレーが述べたとされるこの考え方は、物理的な相互作用を伴うレベル1のエイリアンコンタクト、すなわち、クラフトの目撃、レーダー反応、インプラント、痕跡証拠などの具体的な現象を考える際に出てきます。

これらのイベントは一貫して報告されており、複数の関係者や計測器によって目撃される客観的な相関関係を伴うことが多いとされています。しかし、これらのイベントはしばしば予想される振る舞いを逸脱しており、私たちが現実だと考える物理的な現実が、全体像を十分に説明できていないことを示唆しています。ポッドキャストのホストであるExoAcademianは、ヴァレーが言ったように、「高ストレンジネス」は単なる問題（バグ）ではなく、ある種の機能（特徴）であると考えていると述べています。それは、私たちの現在のモデルの不十分さについて、何かを示し、何かを明らかにするためのものなのです。

次に、UFO現象とシャーマン的な伝統との間の不気味な重複・平行性についてです。 UFOエンカウンターは、特にその高ストレンジネスな側面、非物理的、非線形、およびシンクロニシティ的な側面において、アーキタイプ的な変容体験を映し出すことが多いとされています。

ソースでは、UFO現象や他の高ストレンジネスが、臨死体験や瞑想によって到達される深い神秘的な状態だけでなく、シャーマン的な旅とも強く並行していると述べています。

この平行性はいくつかの形で現れます。

  • 夢の論理やシャーマン的なイニシエーションに似たイベントが、エイリアンとの遭遇によって開始されることがあります 。ジャック・ヴァレーや他の人々も、シャーマンの伝統と、物理的かつ象徴的であるこれらの存在との遭遇の実際の性質との間に、不気味な重複と平行的な交差があることについて語っています。

  • 高ストレンジネスが始まるにつれて、それが「アップティック」、つまり増加することがよくあります。これは、シャーマニズムの伝統でも見られ、トラウマや病気が、現実や自己についてのこのより深い理解が出現するための開口部、機会となるとされています。UFO体験においても、トラウマがこれらの体験がより起こりやすくなる開口部を作り出す可能性があるという興味深い問題が提起されています。

  • UFO体験は、メタフィジカルな観点から見ると、自己との外部化された夢のような遭遇であり、訪問者（ET、異次元、あるいはポスト生物的存在など）は、高次の自己（例えばラーのようなソーシャルメモリーコンプレックス）または深層無意識知性の象徴的または文字通りの投影であると捉えられます。これは、シャーマニズムにおけるパワーアニマルや、特定の動物が意味の観点から特に自分に関係があると識別されること、また、アーキタイプが超個人的なテンプレートであることとも関連付けられます。

  • これらの遭遇は、自己の境界の溶解、時間の歪みや停止、そして象徴的またはテレパシー的に話すメッセージを伝える知性との遭遇を引き起こすことがあります。これらの体験は、個人にとっては非常に困難で圧倒的である場合もありますが、小さな自己の死を可能にし、それにとって代わる、より実質的で、現実的で、永遠に感じられるより深い自己をもたらすとされています。これもシャーマン的な旅で起こることとよく似ています。

  • これらの重複と平行性は、UFOコンタクトが「彼らについてだけではない」という考えを支持します。それは、私たちが「彼ら」の外見を通して自己とコンタクトしているということなのです。彼らは実在する可能性があり、物理的でもありますが、同時にアーキタイプの鏡や時間的な橋としても機能します。

全体として、これらの考え方は、宇宙が無作為ではなく、深く意識的で対話的であることを示唆しています。

UFOエンカウンターのような体験は、内と外、自己と他者、そして時間と永遠性との間の区別を崩壊させるリミナルなイベントであり、アーキタイプはメタフィジカルな体験の構成要素として機能します。これは、私たちが現実を単に物理的で自然発生的なものとしてではなく、象徴的でありながらリアルでもあるものとして理解する必要があることを強く示唆しています。つまり、高ストレンジネスやシャーマン的な伝統との類似点は、UFO現象が、意識がその層状の象徴的表現を通して、時間、アイデンティティ、そして見かけ上の他者性を通じて自己自身に自己を明らかにしているという、再帰的な啓示としての現実構造の一部である証拠と見なすことができるのです。

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（以下は、Darren King (ペンネームは ExoAcademian) による "115 - Refractions of the Deep Self" と題された Podcast の文字起こし）

Hello, and welcome to episode number 115 of the Point of Convergence podcast. As always, I am your host, Exoacadamian. Since the dawn of what has come to be colloquially referred to as the modern UFO phenomenon, two very divergent aspects have emerged to create a situation that appears, on the face of it, utterly irreconcilable. On the one hand, this phenomenon is supported by evidence gathered in what we call the quote-unquote real world, that is to say, physical reality. (0:00:43)

This evidence includes radar returns, electromagnetic effects, soil traces, multiple independent witness accounts, biological effects on witnesses, photographic and video evidence, and more. On the other hand, the testimony of those who've apparently interacted with this phenomenon suggests an experience that defies our very understanding of what can be real. These elements include precognition of future events, memories from lifetimes beyond this one, including as forms not exclusively human, the encountering of spaces that seem much larger from within than without, movement through the environment, sometimes with the body, and sometimes without, etc. (0:01:27)

Another key component that arises not just in the contact phenomenon, but also in near-death experiences, is the uncanny sense that what we call the quote-unquote real world is somehow less real than the modes of existence or states of being in which these so-called non-ordinary experiences occur. And let us be clear, if we are to take these accounts at face value, it would appear that what we have long referred to as the quote-unquote real world is actually a subsidiary to one or more subsuming realms, and that even what we refer to as the self is actually a truncated and fractional expression of a much more dynamic, multi-faceted identity that exists outside of space-time altogether. (0:02:14)

Speaking of space and time, also particularly pertinent here is the paradoxical and perplexing way that certain notions expressed in what are referred to as the archetypes and in astrology seem to comport with a confounding degree of precision with the unfolding of our actual experience of reality, giving rise to prickly questions about determinism and free will. Indeed, these apparently pre-existing patterns of manifestation that point to an underlying symbolic geometry call into question the very naturalistic assumptions that are at the core of physicalism, the present dominant paradigm widely ascribed to within western civilization. (0:02:59)

All of this so-called high strangeness converges to point to a deeper truth that is truly astonishing, namely that the experiences of our lives are not arising either as real or symbolic, as in our long-standing distinction between the reality of the waking versus dream states, but rather as simultaneously both. And yes, not surprisingly, this has profound implications regarding the nature of the self and the nature of existence. (0:03:33)

These are precisely the paradigm-shattering and mind-expanding matters that we'll seek to engage with in this, the 115th episode of the Point of Convergence podcast. As we begin this week's episode, I'd just like to remind everyone that if you would like to support this podcast and my work in general, and in so doing gain access to all of my podcast content, which includes POC, Liminal Frames, and Event Horizon, as well as premium feature series, such as the ones on the Raw Contact material, the Seth material, the Dolores Cannon material, etc., as well as OTC Squared, and early access and discounts to my online classes and in-person retreats, you can do so by going to patreon.com slash exoacadamian or by subscribing on Spotify. All right, with that preamble aside, let's jump into today's topic. (0:04:35)

This is one of those meta topics. We've talked before about zooming in in some podcast episodes and zooming out in others. This is definitely a zooming out episode. This is the meta of the meta, if you will. This is how I described this podcast episode. (0:04:48)

I said it was about supernormal states and hyperreality, non-linear time and mystery initiation, events that are both literal and symbolic within a conscious cosmos, archetypes serving as a spiritual grammar for metaphysical experience, reality as recursive revelation. That's a lot to fit in there, and indeed we are going to cover a lot today. (0:05:16)

And even more than breadth, we're going to go into incredible depth today. We're going to look into the deeper meaning behind all of this, not just experiences with the UFO phenomenon, but also near-death experiences and how, via notions like synchronicity, the events of our lives seem to be arising with purpose, with intention, an intentionality that comes from somewhere, but where? That is one of the questions we'll ask. (0:05:40)

And in order to answer that question, we will have to expand our understandings of the self into the notion of the multidimensional self, which is something I've been talking about more and more, that I also spoke about in my presentations in both Houston and Denver, both within the last couple of months. The reason why I keep coming back here and want to really stress this point, and in today's podcast episode, unpack it, is because I think it's incredibly consequential, not just for how we understand the nature of reality, but also, perhaps even more importantly, how we choose to live our lives as a consequence. (0:06:17)

I think this really points to a reality which is enchanting, if you will, one which is richly infused with meaning and purpose. So that's why I really want to unpack this, because I think each of these different kinds of phenomenal experiences point to this common ground, the same common ground. Now, of course, I should begin by saying this is a long way from our contemporary conversation being had in society, if you will. (0:06:44)

We should break that up into two different parts, really, because first, we have the conversation being had in the halls of Congress, for instance, and to some degree around dinner tables around the country, where the focus of the conversation is really around the fact that there do seem to be these UAP that used to be called UFOs, these objects or vehicles or phenomena being observed in the sky and elsewhere that seem to defy conventional logic, which seem to point to something other being in our presence with different notions about what that would mean, where they're coming from, and that kind of thing. (0:07:15)

Then we have a second kind of conversation that's being had within the UFO community, and there we go into even more depth around what these beings might be, how they may be interdimensional rather than just extraterrestrial. We even talk about how they may have been here all along as a kind of sister species, sister humanoid species, and on it goes. (0:07:37)

And in addition, we talk about phenomena that seem to be attached to these sightings. And here we're referring to things like abductions, that human beings seem to be taken by these beings or interacting with these beings in various ways. We also talk about how that sometimes involves what we call sigh phenomena in terms of how these beings communicate to humans, that is to say telepathically with mind-to-mind communication, etc. (0:08:05)

That's the more in-depth conversation we're having within the UFO community. So that's two different kinds of conversations. Then there's a conversation like today, and I would say that this conversation is happening within a subset of that larger UFO community, where there are a group of us who definitely understand that consciousness is central to this phenomenon, and even more importantly, not just to this phenomenon, but to our very understanding of reality, of the self, etc. (0:08:33)

Because this is the thing, if this data is real, and it certainly seems to be by every measure, then this has major implications, again, for our understanding of what all of this is, and why we are here. (0:08:44)

And very interestingly, and I think compellingly, what the evidence seems to point towards is a notion of life, experience, and the deep self that is truly, as I said in the introduction, paradigm-shattering and mind-expanding. Now an overarching theme that I want to explore today, as I touched on in the introduction there, is that while we tend to frame things as being either symbolic or real, what this phenomenon seems to present is not just experiences, but a reflection on life that shows it to be simultaneously symbolic and real. (0:09:24)

And I want to point out here that this is not necessarily a new idea. In fact, people like Carl Jung and Wolfgang Pauli looked into this in the 20th century, and they decided—again, this is a person who is a world-renowned psychologist and a world-renowned physicist—they came to the conclusion that life is actually synchronistic, that undergirding the physical reality we experience and assume is base reality is a field of meaning, if you will, where synchronicity rules the day. (0:10:00)

Determinism only arises when you average out all of the events of different people's lives, but individually, life seems to be happening. Events seem to be manifesting from synchronicity. That is to say, driven by meaning. So this is so consequential, of course, because this changes everything about how we think about ourselves and the lives we are living. As I like to say sometimes, this means that life is happening for us and not to us. (0:10:23)

So what exactly do I mean when I refer to events arising that are rich in symbolism, as well as apparently being real as we understand reality? Well, take, for instance, how the owls show up so often with the UFO phenomenon. And my friend Mike Thelen wrote an entire book about this, a couple books about this, actually, because it is so well attested to. (0:10:49)

And I want to also caution that I don't think this is just about screen memories. That yes, indeed, I do think sometimes the greys and these various beings will cloak their activities in such a way as to make it look like they are owls or workmen or deer on the side of the road and that kind of thing. But even above and beyond that, there seems to be these certain animals that show up that are demonstrably there in our environment. (0:11:16)

Other people can see them. They leave traces in the ground and that kind of thing. And yet, in addition, they are well known to be symbolically representative of deep-earth themes. And this, of course, ties into the archetypes that we're going to discuss later. But even within traditions like shamanism, you have different power animals and different people will identify certain animals as being particularly pertinent to them because of what they represent in terms of meaning. (0:11:46)

So again, in terms of the power of the symbol, this shows up again and it's not just that people choose these out of the blue. Often they've had encounters, experiences, they've seen these creatures more often than you would expect if everything is just happening again naturalistically. So again, this calls into question the fact that things are arising just naturalistically. I want to make the point that Pauli and Jung made in the averaging of all events, it looks that way. (0:12:14)

It looks random. But if you look at individual people's lives, things are arising in such a way as to drive home these meaningful overarching themes. Now furthermore, and sometimes startlingly so, people often find that as they begin to notice these things, notice these synchronicities, notice this high strangeness, they find that it upticks. In other words, the more they pay attention and begin to interact with the field, if you will, that seems to kick things up another notch, where people get to the point where they recognize what I like to call preposterosity. (0:12:47)

That is to say, events that are arising that could not possibly be arising according to the old notions of how events of our lives come to be to begin with. Now earlier on, I mentioned archetypes in passing. I'd now like to dive into how archetypes and astrology play a key role in helping us understand the nature of reality and the nature of the deep self as well. (0:13:14)

So archetypes and astrology are related as symbolic systems that map patterns of consciousness, experience, and transformation. Both frameworks aim to reveal the underlying structure of reality as it is perceived by conscious beings, that is to say, us. So let's explore how archetypes, common themes of UFO phenomenon encounters, and the remarkable accuracy of the overarching themes identified in people's astrological charts, signal something significant about the nature of reality. (0:13:53)

So let's start with archetypes, which you might refer to as the underlying symbolic geometry of reality. Now archetypes in the Jungian and esoteric sense are transcendent patterns. They're not personal, they're impersonal templates through which our experience, our identity, and transformation are shaped. So they exist outside linear time and are somehow activated or expressed within time through the lives of individuals, societies, and even entire epochs. (0:14:23)

Now in the raw material, which I've discussed many times in this podcast, and I also did a three-part feature series on the raw material, archetypes are explicitly described as the, quote, mind-body-spirit-archetypical-mind-complex. That's a mouthful, so let me say it again. (0:14:41)

Mind-body-spirit-archetypical-mind-complex. And this is a symbolic architecture through which the logos, or the creative principle behind everything, source if you will, explores itself. And very importantly, the archetypes are a kind of spiritual grammar, not just a kind of storytelling motif, if you will. So this is key, that basically within a certain reality frame, the archetypes show up as the forms that we tell stories through, if you will. (0:15:16)

When we think about certain kinds of characters or certain kind of plots that show up again and again in literature, for instance, the hero's journey being one, this is what I'm talking about. These certain ways that we frame existence and draw meaning from it. It can be expressed in many, many different stories that follow that general architecture, but the underlying structure follows this familiar pattern and drives home particular meaning as a result. (0:15:43)

I would also point out that once you start looking for them, once they've been brought to your attention, you start seeing the archetypes everywhere. You recognize it as a kind of, again, spiritual grammar by which we structure our very sense of meaning. Now, interestingly, the archetypes are like bridge points between the personal and the transpersonal, which is something we'll really talk about a lot today, the temporal and the eternal, as well as the conscious self and the deeper self. (0:16:12)

And in many ways, these are three different ways of framing the same kind of larger aspect of reality, this deeper, broader, richer understanding of who we are and what this is. Now, earlier on, I mentioned the raw contact material. Again, this is a channeled body of work that we've returned to again and again, because I find it very helpful, very insightful in terms of helping us understand these deeper structures behind reality. Now, interestingly, in the raw material, as well as other entities that they channeled later, the same L&L Research Group channeled later, we find that actually the archetypes are unique to some degree to each kind of civilization. (0:16:53)

So, in other words, at the seeding of a civilization, it's not just as simple as the seeding of biological material that will grow into something like us. In addition, the very way that our reality rolls out and through which we can communicate and understand meaning is also imbued with these archetypal forms, and that this is unique to each civilization. There are some overarching ones as well, but each logos, which is a kind of identity, again, at the most root level, that source consciousness, but then there are also these various sub-logoi, which is to say, for instance, the head of a galactic cluster would be a certain kind of logos that sets the tone and the meaning structure for that entire physical existence, or that entire meaning set, if you will. (0:17:43)

And then even within a solar system, for instance, with our solar system, the sun is seen as the logos, the sub-logos for our particular civilization and the environment we live in. So, that is unique to us, and therefore the archetypes that we work with and communicate and find meaning through is unique to us. (0:18:04)

So, this is something that is really brought home over and over again with the raw contact material, as well as other channel material, and I find it very resonant. (0:18:10)

It's very resonant with my sense of things as well, that in addition to looking out into space and seeing these galactic bodies, these clusters, these star systems, black holes, stars, that kind of thing, these are more than just physical inert objects. They actually are different bodies of consciousness, and that their physical shape, their physical manifestation, is indicative of this deeper meaning. So, something like a sun or even something like a supermassive black hole has particular import in terms of meaning, not just in terms of physical presence. (0:18:47)

And here, by the way, I also think about a recent article that Rupert Sheldrake wrote asking, is the sun conscious? And there he's basically exploring a very similar notion. We assume these things are just inert physical objects. He questions that. He thinks consciousness might be undergirding each of these main entities in reality, not just us, not just animals, but indeed these power centers of our surrounding galactic architecture. So, the notion here is also that there are higher levels of reality that are referred to as different densities within the raw contact material. (0:19:25)

You can think of them as different dimensions of existence that one transcends to with greater degrees of awareness, and that these higher dimensions or densities will actually send messages or packets of meaning, if you will, arriving through the events of our lives, the circumstances of our lives, as catalysts which we use to learn and grow and ultimately transcend ourselves. (0:19:51)

And this goes all the way up to source consciousness eventually. And in seeking greater clarity about this, Carla and the other team members that were part of L&L Research, they actually contacted a being called Quo, which is very similar to raw. They are a social memory complex, which is to say a collective consciousness. And this is what Quo had to say regarding this notion of the archetypes. (0:20:15)

Quote, each sun or sublogos, as this instrument would say, has made choices in how the fundamental consciousness of the planetary population will express itself. We are not talking about the level of conscious choice, but rather the level of the archetypal mind and the roots of consciousness. For each planetary tribe, there is a unique flavor and quality to the archetypal and mythical aspects of that tribe. (0:20:46)

Unquote. So again, this speaks to the fact that there are different archetypal setups for different collective consciousnesses. All right, so that's the archetypes. We also touched on shamanism and power animals. We've talked about synchronicity. Now let's dive into how some of these phenomena and similar notions arise in the UFO phenomenon. And here I want to think about the UFO phenomenon as contact with the self as other. (0:21:12)

Because this is a major implication here. And this really, I think, stretches, but also opens up and solves some questions we have regarding the nature of the UFO phenomenon and how it relates to the nature of existence altogether. Because if we are all different expressions of source consciousness, then in a very real sense, not just symbolic again, we are mirrors to each other, demonstrating different aspects of the same underlying truth, the same underlying being, if you will, the same one unit of consciousness. (0:21:49)

So in that sense, these different beings that we meet in the UFO phenomenon are representing something about transpersonal consciousness, just as we represent something to them. And that this interaction, in a way, is like driving integration in the greater self. (0:22:02)

So UFO encounters, especially in their high strangeness, non-physical, non-linear, and synchronistic aspects, often mirror archetypal transformation experiences. So we have the showing up within the UFO phenomenon. The encounter with the other, in quotes there, that could be ET, interdimensional, or post-biological beings, evokes in us initiation into mystery, dissolution of ego boundaries, time distortion, or suspension of time altogether. And we encounter message-bearing intelligences that speak symbolically or telepathically. (0:22:40)

And we run into tests of orientation where we have to make sense of whether these beings are benevolent or malevolent. So all of these are kind of like its own hero's journey, if you will, where we are encountering different aspects of transpersonal depth that allow us to grow in our own understanding. (0:23:05)

And this is something I come across so often when I read the literature, especially when I think about the work I've done with the John Mack Institute and Archives the Impossible, looking back into the cases that John Mack was involved in and the people he worked with, as well as letters that were sent in to the Striebers as part of the Communion Letters book. But also there was many more letters than that. I've looked at that archive as well. (0:23:24)

And what we find again and again are these experiences that are simultaneously discombobulating, absolutely overwhelming, unmooring for the individual, and yet that also allow for the death of the small self in order to give way to and give rise to, like a phoenix from the flame, if you will, a deeper sense of self, one that is much more substantive, that feels real, that feels eternal. And so even though the experience can be incredibly difficult and overwhelming, again, a lot like what happens with shamanistic journeys, we see on the other side of that that transpersonal understanding arises in the place of what used to be housing the small self. (0:24:10)

And for the people who go through it, the majority of them anyway, from my research, they actually are thankful for that experience. They would not trade it, even though it did involve trauma and overwhelm. Now this is controversial, but I also think it's really consequential. We cannot turn away from the fact that trauma is so often central to these experiences, and that to some degree early childhood trauma seems to create an opening through which some of these other experiences are more likely to happen. (0:24:41)

Now there are interesting questions that arise around how is there perhaps a causal relationship there, or is it just correlational? But either way, we also see this evidenced in traditions like shamanism, where trauma or illness becomes the opening, the opportunity through which this deeper understanding of reality and of the self emerges. So all that is to say, these themes strongly parallel shamanic journeys, as well as near-death experiences and deep mystical states arrived at through meditation and the like. (0:25:15)

From a metaphysical point of view, UFO experiences are externalized dream encounters with the self, where the quote-unquote visitor is a symbolic or literal projection of the higher self social memory complex, again thinking there of Ra, or deep unconscious intelligence. If time is not linear and consciousness is primary, as we've been exploring for a couple of years now on point of convergence, then such encounters may be staged inflection points initiated by a higher density self or collective intelligence to catalyze awareness and choice. (0:25:55)

So I've mentioned before that I've had experiences in deep meditative states where I not only tap into a collective consciousness, something like Ra, but I actually experience myself as being one of the members of that collective consciousness, an aspect of it. And this is something that comes up a lot in the UFO phenomenon, people who simultaneously have almost two personas or more. (0:26:19)

We think about Suzy Hansen, when she was on board the craft, she not only had a human identity, but she also had an identity as a gray that coincided with that human identity. When she was back on earth, she would just be operating as the human, but on board the craft, both would be coexisting basically. So here we have the notion that we are much more complex and interesting and multidimensional than we've thus far conceived of. (0:26:48)

And as I've been saying recently, this is massively consequential for how we make sense of the UFO phenomenon of high strangeness, synchronicity, and the like. The notion here is that we have recursive patterns throughout reality, and that higher stages or higher forms, higher dimensions, higher densities, will actually work to engineer opportunities, catalysts again, using the raw contact material kind of language, to allow a tuning for a different dimensional framing of that same self. (0:27:19)

So where we draw these distinctions between ourselves gets complicated, not just because we are all one, but also because between this incarnational stage and source consciousness, there are these different fractal patterns fitting together like these nested Chinese boxes. And so that means that sometimes when we think we're encountering something other, which we are, because again, it is real, these are physical encounters, but they are also richly symbolic, which is to say, we are encountering other aspects of ourselves. And when you think about it, this makes complete sense, because if everything is ultimately arising as the many from the one, then this kind of scenario would actually be inevitable. All right, so there we touched on the archetypes and the UFO phenomenon. (0:28:08)

Let's now discuss another kind of pattern recognition that we see in our reality that relates to these other ones. And here we're speaking of astrology. And here we think of time as meaning rather than sequence. I just want to point out again, in my own personal experience, I've had non-ordinary state experiences where the events of my life reordered so as to no longer be chronological, but actually ordered in terms of meaning connection. (0:28:37)

So it might be an event from two months ago and 20 years ago end up being side by side, if you will, in terms of meaningful construction. (0:28:43)

And they actually made a lot more sense when I saw them from that kind of framing. All right, so astrology provides the most robust example of how time, when viewed symbolically rather than sequentially, reveals a patterned conscious universe. Again, this is a point that we keep coming to, that we have to remember this is a conscious cosmos that we are a part of, that we are an extension of, and that makes a huge difference. (0:29:14)

And we cannot think about the UFO phenomenon and the archetypes and ourselves the same way when we recognize that we are part of the conscious cosmos. So in this sense, the birth chart acts as a snapshot of a moment, but not causally, but rather symbolically. And again, I really want to drive home. We don't mean when we say symbolically that we mean somehow not real. (0:29:40)

It just means meaning-oriented, and that is to say representative of these deeper themes. So what does that mean? What's actually happening when we think about astrology and birth charts and the position of the planets? What's actually causing what there? So the notion here is that the accuracy of charts—and believe me, they are extremely accurate if you have one done, I think you'll be surprised by this—the accuracy is not due to planetary influence per se, but because the moment of incarnation—that is to say, our birth—is chosen consciously or by the higher self, the deeper self, the oversoul, as I've referred to it before, to reflect the most potent archetypal themes needed for that particular incarnation. (0:30:26)

So in that sense, what I'm saying is that astrology is a symbolic mirror, and that the fact that transits and progressions continue to reflect internal states congruently—in other words, indeed, our lives do seem to follow the general themes that are indicated in our astrological charts—suggests a deep synchrony between Psyche and Cosmos, a non-local field of meaning. So let that hit home. (0:30:59)

This is, again, pointing to the fact that our Psyche and the Cosmos are two sides of the same coin. And that's why we see these patterns showing up across these different kinds of theme sets, if you will, whether it's astrology or the archetypes or even, I would argue, some aspects of the UFO phenomenon. (0:31:18)

So here we understand that, again, this is a conscious Cosmos. The universe is not inert, but actually saturated with intentionality. Again, meaningfully driven or purposed. Time is textured in this kind of framing, not flat. And that means that certain moments are pregnant with specific potentials, archetypal potentials. And the individual soul is not separate, but actually participates in a collective unfolding. (0:31:45)

Here we think about collective transits or generational planets within astrology. So what we're seeing here is different mirrorings of the same kind of underlying process that is unfolding recursively and across different fractal levels of reality. And that we ourselves are represented at different fractal levels and that we ourselves are influencing ourselves across these different fractal levels with these different potentialities that show up at certain key inflection points in our lives. (0:32:23)

So an interesting implication that arises from this much broader, deeper, richer notion is that, on the one hand, we recognize we have, to some degree, less what we would call free will within this incarnational perspective. But at the same time, that another aspect of us, the oversoul, if you will, or the deep self, has really rich, robust agency. And we'll use that to create, again, the catalysts of experience that allow for a maturing of the self in this incarnation. (0:32:57)

So here we have the notion of the deep self as an orchestrator of the journey, the multidimensional journey that is, and that this oversoul exists outside linear time. And it functions as, you might say, a director, choosing different incarnational setups based on desired polarization or learning. So when there are certain specific elements we want to understand deeply through experience, which is the only way you really can understand it, we will set up certain events in our lives so as to have that opportunity to experience that as energy, transmute the energy, and then grow in deep wisdom. (0:33:35)

You might also think about it as a weaver in terms of a fabric, breeding synchronicities, symbols, and encounters into the incarnate self's experience. (0:33:41)

And as we've been saying, another helpful analogy is that of a mirror reflecting through archetypes and events, both distortions and potentials. So I've often talked about a way to really interact with the interconnected field, which we never stopped being a part of, even though we have the appearance of myriad forms. (0:34:06)

We need to clean the distortions of our existence, and we do that by working through energy, with energy, and that happens through the events of our lives, once again with the notion that life is happening for us, for that very purpose, rather than just to us. So in this framing, the self doesn't act causally like a puppet master, where we lose all sense of free will on the local level, but rather resonantly, shaping fields of experience in which the free will actor, that is us, the incarnate self, can make meaningful choices within that structure. (0:34:38)

So the deep congruence between astrology, UFO contact motifs, and archetypal depth psychology suggests the universe is not random, but rather deeply conscious and dialogical. Experiences that seem wildly different, like a Saturn return, an alien abduction, or an archetypal dream, are all potentially self-generated learning vectors within a unity of consciousness. Remembering again that at these different levels, it's still us, that we have to start thinking about ourselves as multi-dimensional beings, and only then will we fully make sense of what's happening here, or at least have a much better sense, a much richer sense of what's happening here, which doesn't at all impinge on the fact that these things are really happening. (0:35:27)

Again, what this does is it includes and transcends the notion or the distinctions between, for instance, dream states and the real world, or symbolic reality and literal reality. Once again, the notion we're going for is both and, not either or. So as many of you know, I called this podcast Point of Convergence because of this felt sense that somehow this all ties together. (0:35:55)

This all points to one deep, rich reality scape. So here we're talking about a symbolic participatory cosmos. That is the convergent insight. And in this sense, archetypes are the building blocks of metaphysical experience. And again, they are unique to different consciousnesses and different collective consciousnesses. We are a planetary consciousness, even though we don't fully recognize that yet. (0:36:26)

And UFO encounters are liminal events that collapse distinctions between inner and outer, self and other, and time and timelessness, which again says nothing about the reality. It's still real. It's absolutely real. But it's real in the sense that in any encounter, whether it's you talking to me, or me experiencing myself in a past life, or me experiencing a being that takes on a different shape, a different form as an apparent alien, all of those incarnations, all of those situations, point to mirroring of the one deep self. (0:36:58)

And that at these different levels, different interactions are happening for meaningful purposes. And by the way, that goes beyond whether or not the experience initially feels positive or negative, because just as a nightmare can actually serve to uncover deep movements in the deep self, so that we will learn to integrate, in the same way we sometimes encounter beings that can be frightening, and that too is an attempt at deeper integration. Although in this case, it's multi-dimensional integration. (0:37:29)

So all told, this points to a reality that is self-illuminating in structure, and in which consciousness reveals itself to itself through layered symbolic expression across time, identity, and apparent otherness. That's the key word, apparent. (0:37:48)

All right, now I'd like to turn to one other dimension I'd like to factor in here. Let's now also factor in how time loops and phenomena such as retrocausality fit into this picture of an incarnated self being presented with choices, but transcending a solely linear expression or perception. This is something that Nathan and I explored in the last Liminal Frames episode, and now I want to also roll this in here, see how this plays into this conscious cosmos kind of perspective. (0:38:27)

So time loops and retrocausality. This is really about consciousness again, consciousness being primary, reshaping itself across timelines. So time loops and retrocausality suggest that events in the future can influence the present or past. We talked about that on Liminal Frames. And that's because consciousness is non-locally entangled with its whole timeline. The deep self existing outside time, remember, can and does strategically insert catalytic events like symbols, synchronicities, UFO contact, and astrological triggers from any point in time in order to guide development, initiate correction or integration, and create realization. (0:39:13)

So in this sense, choices aren't simply made in a linear stream. They are interwoven like a fabric, with outcomes in one version of the timeline influencing conditions in others. So what are the implications for the incarnated self? What we perceive as fate may actually be a feedback loop from future selves. And there's a kind of course correcting or course influence of the current self through symbolic or catalytic means. (0:39:45)

Again, this notion that we discussed on Liminal Frames is that the present is basically the sum total of the interference patterns between the past and the future. So here, synchronicity becomes a form of time loop feedback, subtle signals from you in quotes there at another point in time, helping align this version of you around greater coherence across the entire frame of the self, the deep self. (0:40:13)

And here, past trauma and future realization and present decision can all resonate simultaneously, creating layered experiential fields rather than sequential cause-effect logic. So from our particular vantage point, and again this speaks to something that Donald Hoffman has unpacked, we have a certain perception of reality. But we know that's just an interface, that's a dumbed down kind of use of icons to make sense of the world. (0:40:37)

This multi-dimensional kind of multi-directional reality scape is really what's going on, what's really giving rise to the events of our lives and how they're connected sometimes in strange, highly strange ways with our future and our past. All of that is indicative of this more robust multi-dimensional understanding of the deep self and how the deep self is in itself one element in a larger frame of collective consciousness. (0:41:08)

So again, you can file this up and down from the smallest to the largest scale or said differently, from the most ignorant frame to the most aware frame. Okay, so all that said, what are the implications of this choice mechanism in non-linear time? Remembering again that actually how this works is in terms of non-linear time, sequentiality is just an artifact of our perception. (0:41:33)

That's a stubborn one, that's difficult for us to get past because it's not only what we've been taught, but we also all share that experience. And it's only often through non-ordinary states or high strangeness, synchronicity, and the like, that we begin to get clues and put together that that's not really how things work. So if the incarnated self is presented with choices, those choices are not isolated nodes as they might first appear. They're part of a branching multi-dimensional pattern, like a Mandelbrot set of probabilities, or a holographic map where changing one node reverberates through the whole. (0:42:12)

So in this view, the higher self doesn't force events, it tunes the field. So this is where thinking about free will in too much of a truncated manner is not really helpful. Think about the tuning of a field or even the tuning of an orchestra, if you will. So in order to do this, it uses astrological transits as timed windows of archetypal activation. (0:42:37)

Remembering again that the cosmos is the flip side of the coin of the deep overarching psyche. And symbolic events that are also real, let's not make that mistake, like UFO encounters or repeating dreams, are nudges or forks in that path. And that retro-causal feedback from future alignments or distortions adjusts the now accordingly, according to how the field is trying to be tuned by the deep self or the oversoul. (0:43:04)

And this altogether lands us at a notion I described in the very beginning, where reality emerges as itself a kind of recursive revelation. Remembering again that there isn't meaning apart from reality, but that reality itself is the revelation, and it's recursively driven. So with retro-causality and non-linear time, the convergence we're describing ends up looking like a reality that is recursive, that serves up symbolic mirrors, and where the deep self or oversoul actually orchestrates initiatory experiences across timelines. (0:43:47)

So here the self within time makes choices, that is to say this body-mind of Darren, but those choices feedback across time, influencing both their origins and their outcomes. Again, this works in both directions, in all directions, it's multidimensional. This certainly flies in the face of how we have experienced our life and what we've been told, but with a deep inner investigation, along with clues being served up in fields such as astronomy, physics, and neuroscience, we arrive at this much more multidimensional kind of frame, one that certainly re-enchants our lives, but does so in highly strange ways. (0:44:25)

Okay, with all of that said, let's return to a notion we entertained in the very beginning, a notion that certainly feels unconventional and unfamiliar to those of us who've been raised in Western civilization, and that's going to be most of us. I'm here speaking of the notion that something can be both symbolic and real. (0:44:48)

We again have set up this false distinction where dream states we consider symbolic, we'll recognize meaningful overlays in those dreams, but we don't assume that happens in the real world, that is to say the waking world, because we assume that's happening naturalistically, which is to say it's happening outside of this flow of the deep self and the interpenetrating scopes of reality, if you will. (0:45:14)

So let's once again consider this in terms of the UFO phenomenon, how it can be both symbolic and real, and that those are not in any way contradictory. (0:45:20)

So first we have level one, the reality of the gross physical interactions with these beings. So at this level, alien contact involves tangible phenomena like craft sightings, radar blips, implants, trace evidence, etc. We also see what is now being talked about at the congressional level, biological or technological intelligences engaging with humanity. And we also have social and psychological effects, that is to say trauma, belief shifts, worldview changes, secrecy, and militarization in response to this very physical aspect of the phenomenon. (0:46:04)

From this perspective, alien contact is literal interaction between humans and NHI, non-human intelligences, possibly from other planets, dimensions, densities, or timelines. These events are reported consistently and often involve objective correlates witnessed by multiple parties or instruments. But even here, the events often violate expected behavior, suggesting that the gross reality that we think of as real cannot be describing the whole picture. And indeed, as Vallee has said, I think that the high strangeness is a feature, not a bug. (0:46:38)

It's meant to show us something, meant to uncover something about the insufficiency of our current model. So beyond the physical, we also have level two, the archetypal or symbolic layer. And here, alien beings often speak telepathically or symbolically, present themselves in forms that mirror cultural or mythic expectations. Jacques Vallee has also explored this. Are they merely taking on these forms because of our expectation or some combination of their true nature and our expectation? Again, ultimately, that being different aspects of the same one being. (0:47:13)

They also trigger deep psychological and spiritual transformation, and they initiate events that resemble dream logic or shamanic initiation. This is something Vallee has also talked about, and others have talked about it as well, that there's an uncanny overlap and parallel intersection between shamanic tradition and the actual nature of the encounters with these beings that are both real and symbolic. (0:47:45)

So this means external entities are using symbolic means to interface with human consciousness, and that manifestations of consciousness itself are appearing externally to catalyze internal transformation. Both of those things are true at different levels, interlaced levels, if you will. So in this case, higher density versions of the self is orchestrating catalytic encounters across time and across levels. So all told, what this means is that alien contact is not just about them. (0:48:19)

It's about us contacting ourselves through the appearance of quote-unquote them. They may be real. They are real. They are physical. We've already talked about that. And yet they still function as archetypal mirrors and temporal bridges. So this brings together astrology, the archetypes, the UFO phenomenon, high strangeness, synchronicity, past lives, near-death experience. It's all part of the same orchestra of events and elements that are driving greater integration, tuning the field of fields, if you will. (0:48:58)

Now, by the way, something else I addressed recently on earlier podcast episodes of Point of Convergence is the fact that, again, evidence from these different fields, astronomy, physics, etc., are suggesting that we live in a simulation-like kind of structure, construct, a matrix-like structure, if you will. But importantly, as I described in an earlier episode, while I say simulation-like, that isn't to say simulation in the sense that this is a reality that's faking a real reality, a real physical reality that is taking place for some alien intelligence, and we're more like the avatars on a computer system within their civilization. (0:49:36)

That's not what we mean. We mean that what we think of as physical reality, the physical cosmos, is itself a construct set up for the evolution of consciousness. And something to think about here is that for a consciousness-induced construct to be effective, it needs to offer an immersive environment that is generally internally consistent. It need not be, however, exhaustively self-consistent, because the point is to present an experiential learning architecture, not to satisfy endless scientific measurement. (0:50:16)

Tellingly, this is exactly what we find when we do study and measure the cosmos. And in that sense, the boundary conditions that we are running into, that at the largest scales and the smallest scales, our physics fails to make sense, the structure seems to break down, that provides hints as to the overarching meaning-driven purpose. It's real enough to serve up the catalysts of experience that allow us to grow in soul wisdom, but it need not be any more real than that, if you will, because the whole point is consciousness and the evolution of consciousness. And now, in light of everything we've talked about today, let me leave you with a couple of thoughts. (0:50:57)

Number one, think about an incarnation, that is to say what you're experiencing right now, as one node within a multi-dimensional web of meaning and identity. And any movement at any node causes ripples throughout the deep self, like the plucking of a spider web. Other nodes, in turn, cause reverberations with actions taken as well. And that includes not just different incarnations, different iterations of the self, but also the self at different points in what we perceive as time, where retrocausation is just as real as the present being derived from the past. (0:51:30)

Now, ultimately, what does this all speak to? It speaks to the deep self, or oversoul, which is conducting an orchestra of incarnations. And within that process, we also see something akin to jazz improv, where a soloist, this time representing the individual incarnate life, makes choices that feed back to the oversoul in a richly participatory, alive, and ever-evolving process. And on that note, we've come to the close of another edition of the Point of Convergence podcast. If you'd like to support this podcast, you can do so by going to patreon.com slash exoacadamian, or by subscribing on Spotify. But until next time, friends, from deep within the Blue Ridge Mountains of North Carolina, this is Exoacadamian, signing out. (0:52:27)

根本的な欠陥​

彼の主張する

  • 象徴的宇宙の再帰的啓示、UFO 現象の二面性、「現実世界」の非現実性、現実の象徴的・現実的性質...

は、

  • abductee が自身の不可解な 意識/記憶 障害中の体験を、世間に流布している 「UFO/ET abduction 体験」として構築し直す作業

を、一段上のメタレベルでそっくりそのまま構造的に再現したものでしかない。つまり、彼は

  • UFO/ET 現象、とりわけ abduction 現象に付随する様々な不可解な出来事を
  • メタレベルで、世間に流布している精神世界の神話に沿った形で、象徴的な意味を持たせて 解釈/構築 している。

言い換えると、

  • abductee は 「UFO の内部で体験した事柄」を UFO 神話に沿って 想起/構築 した

が、彼はこの abductee の 想起/構築 作業全体を、一段上のメタレベルに写し、更に知的風味の飾り付けを盛大に加えて

  • UFO/ET 現象を精神世界の神話に合わせて、語呂合わせした

だけ。やっていることの本質は何も変わらない。

問題を一段と複雑怪奇にしただけで何の解決にもならず、より混迷させている。彼も UFO 神話という地下大迷宮の奥深くを彷徨っている。

コメント 1​

彼の言う「レトロ因果律」は、かつて科学界でも若干話題になったが、既に専門家は否定している。

精神世界やオカルト・ファンが贔屓にしていた「量子論の retro-causality（逆因果性）」を現在の専門家は否定している

それを 知らずに/無視して、いまだに「量子論の逆因果性」を持ち出して精神世界のネタに結びつけて無茶な解釈をしているのは、Darren King のような半可通だけ。

コメント 2​

Darren King の主張は、

  • 全世紀後半から「UFO 界隈と 精神世界」で蔓延りだしたドグマの典型

となっているが、彼のドグマを形成している土台が最大の問題となる。なぜなら、

as well as premium feature series, such as the ones on the Raw Contact material, the Seth material, the Dolores Cannon material, etc., as well as OTC Squared, and early access and discounts to my online classes and in-person retreats, you can do so by going to patreon.com slash exoacadamian or by subscribing on Spotify. All right, with that preamble aside, let's jump into today's topic. (0:04:35)

とあるように、彼は

  1. FREE（旧名） が Web アンケートで集めた contactee/abductee の証言
  2. the Seth material（＝ チャネリングによるお告げ）
  3. Dolores Cannon material（＝ あの QHHT の Dolores Cannon が退行催眠で 誘導/共同創作 した abductee の想起データ）

などの「信頼性に問題があるデータ」(*1)を無批判で全て丸飲みし、これらを自身のドグマ構築の土台（の一部）にしてしまった。その結果が、

ExoAcademian(Darren King) は、それらの幼稚でボロが丸見えのオハナシの上に、知的風味の飾り付け（量子もつれが、ガイアが、地球意識が、Jung の集団無意識/元型が、トリックスターが、Jacques Vallee の control system が、NDE/OBE で垣間見た本源的世界が…の類）を多数取り付けて、目眩ましをする役割を実質的に担っている。

ref: ExoAcademian(Darren King) : Barbara Lamb を引き合いに出して David Jacobs の主張を批判 （差替）

という有り様を招いた。

(*1)​

「信頼性に問題があるデータ」...

  • Dolores Cannon の退行催眠が 誘導/共同創作 である証拠については過去記事(*2)で取り上げた。

  • チャネリングによるお告げ、それも "Seth material" の類を真に受けるようでは話にならない。

  • FREE（旧名） はアンケートの件数を自慢しているが、彼らのアンケートには問題が多い(*3)。

このように、どのデータも信頼性に重大な問題を抱えている。

(*2)​

❑ 「Dolores Cannon 流の退行催眠」が abduction 体験の創作だという決定的な証拠 （全体） (2024-06-01)

❏ 退行催眠で意図的に過去の出来事を創作するのは Michael Newton が発端かも (途中 1) (2024-05-31)

(*3)​

そもそも FREE では abductee を abductee とは呼ばず、experiencer（UFO/ET 経験者）と呼び、許可なく勝手に UFO に連れ込まれる体験をプラスの価値があるという前提に立ち、それを大々的に公言している。

言い換えると、abductee という呼び方では ET から被害を受けたという認識になるので よろしくない と主張している組織が FREE 。そんな組織のアンケートに、「自分は ET に攫われた被害者だ」と思っている普通の abductee が自分の時間を割いてまで応募する気にはなれない筈。

さらに、FREE の Web アンケートという手法自体が問題となる。統計を知り尽くした世論調査組織がアンケートを採るのであれば、サンプルの偏りは回避されうる。だが、Web アンケートという方法では、その web サイトを知っている特定の集団（＝ FREE が Web アンケートを 告知した/持ちかけた 精神世界寄りの 組織/グループ ）に偏ったサンプルが集まるのは回避できない。不正対策も簡単ではない。

(2025-06-04)