Elong Musk : 革新的推進システムなど存在しない
前置き
Steven Greer の支持者が作ったと思しき、最近 up された寄せ集めの動画から。
以前から、Steven Greer は
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UFO のような機動が可能な革新的推進システム（≒反重力装置）を実用済みだが政府は秘匿している、
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フリー・エネルギー装置も実用済みだが政府は秘匿している、
と主張してきた。
これに対し、Elong Musk が Joe Rogan との対談でタイトルのように 1. を否定している（Greer の名前を挙げることはしていない）。
さらに、この Elon Musk の否定に対して Greer が反論しているシーンが含まれている。
問題の発言部分
もし、何らかの高度な推進システム技術が秘密裏に開発されている可能性はあるのでしょうか？そして、その存在を隠蔽するために、宇宙人や異星人の技術、この世界のものではないという話で覆い隠そうとしているのでしょうか？さらに、防衛関連企業と結託して高度な推進システムを開発し、その技術をドローンに活用しているような極秘プログラムが存在している可能性はあるのでしょうか？マーク つまり、スペースXは私の会社で、世界で最も先進的なロケット技術を持っています。 （0:09:57）
私は知っています。私の知る限り、魔法のようなものは存在しません。超先進的な推進技術などはありません。トレバー・バーラス 重力駆動や他の理論を提唱する人々はいます。 理論段階を突破したものはありますか？ トレバー・バーラス 何もありません。マーク 理論上でも機能するものは、私が知る限りありません。 トレバー・バーラス 存在してほしいと願っています、明確に言っておきます。 （0:10:29）
存在してほしいと願っています。そして、私は…セキュリティクリアランスの観点から、最高機密のアクセス権限を持っています。セキュリティクリアランスの観点から言えば、ほぼ無制限のアクセス権限を持っています。 だから、彼らは私から隠しているとは思わない。隠すことはできないだろう。
おまけ
動画の冒頭、Greer が
- 先日盲腸破裂で緊急医療に担ぎ込まれ、あやうく一命を取り留めた
…という告白をしてる。緊急医療医だった Greer が自ら緊急医療の患者になったという話。
Youtube 動画(1:12:43)
The Alien Threat Isn’t Real...It's The Biggest Deception In Human History! Dr. Steven Greer
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そもそも、
- UFO のような機動が可能な革新的推進システム（≒反重力装置）を実用済み
なら、それを秘匿する理由がない。米政府にも、軍にも、情報機関にも秘匿することで得られ る益と、秘匿することで失う益を比較すれば明白。益は損失よりも桁違いで大きい。
この状況を喩えると、
- 20世紀初頭に内燃機関による自動車技術を米政府は開発したが、それを秘匿した
というようなもの。秘匿せずに自動車産業を育成するメリットと、秘匿したまま馬車を使いつづけるデメリットを考えれば直ぐにわかる話。
全発言の文字起こし
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In the middle of several weeks of traveling and being on half a dozen major podcasts and shows, you've all seen we did the executive order recommendations for the president, which has been reviewed by them. And in the middle of it, I'll just put it out there, my appendix ruptured and I had emergency surgery about March 5th when we were in Austin. And the day before, I had been on the Chad Robin Show program podcast, and he's a great guy. (0:00:36)
He's a military marine special projects guy who has this wonderful podcast, great military following, helps get the word out. He's also friends with senior military people. And so he's back channeling our information to some key people dealing with military and national security. So Chad's awesome. I went from there in North Houston to Austin, and when I got there, I had to go straight to the ER. So I knew the drill. (0:01:07)
Luckily, I had a family member who knew, had a friend whose husband is a doctor in Austin. And I knew I was having a rupturing appendix. So after we got it all imaged, I went straight up to surgery on Wednesday, March 5th at night and had emergency surgery and it had perforated. It was very dangerous, could have killed me. (0:01:36)
And went home, back to the hotel where we were staying, checked in. And then the next day, got myself up and walked around a mile and a half or so in Austin, and then went and was on the Jesse Michaels. Now these podcasters didn't know I was just out of emergency surgery, but I just sort of push on. (0:01:52)
People who know me go, oh my God, you gotta be kidding. But it was pretty bad. Right before that, Khloe Kardashian, who had me on her show, and it came out that week. Also, this is the Global Disclosure Project. So let me tell everyone right now and just lance this boil. The policy for 35 years has been, this issue transcends not just partisan politics and a little four and a half percent of the world population known as the United States of America. It transcends it globally. (0:02:28)
And so the project has always been forward and outward looking to 8 billion people on planet earth, what they need to know and what they need to understand to help us get to a new era and transform the current state to another one. If you look at what I wrote and said during the Clinton years, I made it very clear this has to be nonpartisan. (0:02:53)
I was not part of a political machine when I was briefing the CIA director for Bill Clinton, who obviously was a Democrat. And same thing when I was providing information to people in the first Trump administration or now, or when I was providing material straight to President Obama through his inner circle, etc. Now the same thing is through a Congress. I have done briefings for people who are committee chairs and key committees when the Congress has been headed and controlled by a Democrat or Republican, and every two to four years it shifts. (0:03:29)
So I need people to wake up out of what I call the Truman Show, you know, that hilarious film with Jim Carrey, where he wakes up one day and realizes he was just in a staged thing. So all this sort of bickering and divisive tribalism that is the bane of humanity is not something we respond to or buy into. We're providing whoever has the office of the presidency, it's the office of the presidency we deal with. (0:03:59)
Whoever is the Minister of Defense of Canada, could be a socialist, could be a conservative. (0:04:05)
Same thing in Australia when I briefed that gentleman. I didn't care what political party he was part of. He was in that position for one of the five I's, spy cooperative, as it were, intelligence cooperative countries with the US. The five I's are US, Canada, Great Britain, Australia, and New Zealand. I provided briefings to every Ministry of Defense for all of them except New Zealand. Now I didn't say, well, what party are you a part of this day? You know, whatever. We can't get tied into that because the issue is so profound. (0:04:39)
It's a universal, not just a global issue. We're not alone in the cosmos. They're here. There has to be a response from not just the United States or one president or party, but from the entirety of humanity at some point that's peaceful and appropriate. Disclosure isn't just here. The same dynamic of an illegal criminal transnational entity that has been doing this in the States is replicated in Canada, which may have a left-wing government while we have a right-wing government. But this issue transcends that. (0:05:19)
It goes beyond that. So what I'm explaining very clearly and not trying to mince words on is that we can't really change what the mission is of disclosure or peaceful CE5 contact. And when we're meeting with people by doing a litmus test of what their current political affiliations and policies are, it has to be above and beyond that, or it's going to devolve into another tribalism, bickering situation. (0:05:50)
Now, this is not to dismiss the valid opinions and differences people have philosophically, politically, policy-wise across the spectrum. I'm not dismissing that. I'm just saying this issue has to be nonpartisan, but not just US nonpartisan. It needs to be global. It needs to be something that's looked at through a universal lens, not just a partisan or even just an American lens. (0:06:18)
So people in other countries, look, literally the United States population is 4.5%. That's all of the whole globe. So Americans being the narcissists that they are, they think they're the only people on the planet, but they're not. And so I have dealt with people who have been ambassadors from China and cabinet level people in Japan. And I didn't do a test of say, well, what political party and belief do you have? We know China is a communist state that runs very much on a totalitarian basis in terms of individual rights and freedoms and speech and press and gathering and dissent and everything else. (0:07:07)
But they have 1.4 billion people, right? And they're high tech and they do have programs related to this. So we can't go around and say, we're not going to provide information to this demographic because it might offend someone on this part of some political spectrum. So I'm just trying to be as honest and forthright about, by the way, what I just said is what I've been saying since the early nineties. (0:07:31)
As I see it, the bane of human existence, what has kept fires and division and disunity and wars running for thousands of years, it demagogues causing people to break into tribal camps that engage in conflict and war. (0:07:45)
It's the opposite of unity. It's the opposite of peace. Now, this is not to say that there's a false equivalency of one policy or another. Certainly if a party is identified with the KKK, they can be called out. There have been organizations that have asked me to be keynote speakers that are heavily identified with anti-Semitism or racism or what have you, and I won't do it. (0:08:17)
But that's different when you're dealing with the governments or the ability to reach a large swath of the population. If you were to not appear in any media in the world that's identified with some tribal party or philosophy or what have you, where would you go? I mean, it's all hyper-divisive and tribal and partisan. And so the truth of the matter is I have to look at it from a higher consciousness, but also a higher strategy that transcends all those fissures and divisions. (0:08:51)
And I think humanity would be much better off if we all did that, frankly, a little bit more in this time of hyper-partisan hatred and bigotry, which I don't think leads to anything but harm. Trevor Burrus The other thing they're going to talk about is UAPs. They're going to release all the UAP information. So you're the guy to ask about this. (0:09:17)
What if any possibility is there that there is some sort of advanced propulsion system technology that's being worked on in secret? And that they're trying to cover this up with this talk of aliens and alien tech and not of this world? And is it possible that there's some sort of very secret program that's going on in cahoots with some defense contractors that are developing advanced propulsion systems that they're using for these drones? Mark I mean, SpaceX, you know, it's my company, SpaceX, has the most advanced rocket technology in the world. (0:09:57)
I think I know. And to the best of my knowledge, there is not any magic. There's not like some super advanced propulsion technology. Trevor Burrus There have been people who have theorized different gravity drives and different things. Is there anything that's ever gotten past the theoretical stage? Trevor Burrus Nothing. Mark Well, there's nothing even that I'm aware of that works in theory. Trevor Burrus I would like this to exist, to be clear. (0:10:29)
I would like this to exist. And I have the... from a security clearance standpoint, I have top, top secret. I have the equivalent of like an all access pass from a security clearance standpoint. So I don't think they're hiding it from me, basically. I don't think they could. And by the way, he's made similar statements about ETs and UFOs in the past, which wasn't that important, because he was a private businessman. (0:11:05)
And he wouldn't have any more knowledge than Joe Blue on the street, quite frankly, unless he'd studied the matter. But now that he has a key advisory capacity for the US government, I think it takes on a different set of problems. So number one, let me go on the record, I do not know Mr. Musk personally at all. (0:11:31)
Never met him, never briefed him. I'm happy to do so. If anyone listening is friends with him, I'd be happy to do an even off the record, in-depth briefing and provide all the evidence and materials we have for him. Number two, what he said was completely false. (0:11:47)
And the key part of what he said that was a problem is that he had a quote, all access pass through Lockheed and Northrop Grumman, and they don't have anything more advanced than his Falcon Heavy, SpaceX rocket, which is absolutely not true. 100% provably not true. I mean, one of the men on our team who's come forward recently, managed the pilots out Edwards Air Force Base, who flew the man-made UFOs out of both Northrop and Lockheed from the test ranges that are out in the Mojave Desert. So excuse me, this is not something that is true. (0:12:30)
Now the problem is, if he doesn't know, which I've had people say there's no way he can't know. But remember, I have done briefings for CI directors and senior people in the Senate Intelligence Armed Services House Oversight, who absolutely everyone would say, and also admirals and generals at the Pentagon, including two directors of the Defense Intelligence Agency, the biggest military intelligence entity for the US military. None of them were read in. (0:13:07)
So the problem is, a lot of people are happy to believe, you know, that that false PR that we don't have, there's nothing to see here, you know, they don't want you to look behind the curtain and see the Wizard of Oz pulling all these strings, right? And the strings they're pulling are the false alien events perpetrated by the use of these advanced technologies, alien reproduction vehicles, whatever you want to call them, that are man-made electric event critic anti-gravity craft that have been used in abductions and mutilations and false flag operations since the late 1950s. Now, I will tell you, that little bit of intelligence that we humans have that technology is a way bigger secret than the fact that there are ETs, non-human intelligence and craft. (0:14:04)
Why? Because if the president and the national military and national security folks believe what Elon said was true, then it opens the door that all the false flag frightening things that have happened are, by conclusion, alien, which that opens the door to the alien threat and that opens the door to disclosure happening within that false narrative that leads straight to World War III and an extinction level event for the human species. (0:14:32)
This is very consequential, which is why I know there are going to be people unhappy that I'm addressing this who are partisans, but you cannot let a falsehood like that rest. Now, if he misspoke, then he needs to then retract it after he's read in. If he's deceiving the public and, by extension, the president, Houston, we have a problem, a very big problem that has to be addressed, because it could lead to a catastrophic series of conclusions by people not read in at the level of the president and the new national security team, where they're going to look at all the evidence that's being gathered through false narrative operatives, let's say, like Gary Nolan at Stanford, who has a contract with the CIA to prove brain and traumatic brain injuries from UAPs. Well, they fail to mention that all the cases that are being sent to him are the man-made cases, right? The radiation case that was in that piece with Jake Barber, that was a man-made nuclear device that he was picking up. Now, he wasn't read into that. (0:15:46)
I have been read into it. Colonel Heckert, who was at our National Press Club event in June of 2023, was read into those and was on a retrieval operation when one went bad up in Canada. He told us all about it. So, the problem is that a little knowledge on this gets you into a lot of trouble. (0:16:09)
So, it could be that Mr. Musk is not read in, but if he does know, and he's misleading the public, but also with his shoulder-to-shoulder access to the president and the national security team, this key bit of information, that's a problem. Because remember, the reason in 2017, 18, 19, I started putting up the alarm around Luis Elizondo and others, they were saying a couple of things that are provably false. One, there's an alien threat. (0:16:35)
What we know from Wernher von Braun, who invented the rocket, faded off Hitler, that was always the plan hatched in the 50s, around 1953, 54, to try to eventually move this subject to disclosure, but under a false narrative, so that they could control the world through a militaristic fear and stampede people into terror. And then control people through fear, through this alien threat. (0:17:09)
And so, that scheme, that sort of deception, and false flag, people say, when is Bluebeam? I said, dude, they started Bluebeam back in the late 50s. Right? They had the assets, they had operational anti-grabs, they first used people made up to look like aliens when they weren't, later they had the robotics, and now they have bio-nanomachines, creatures that are part biological and part machine, that have been doing this. (0:17:38)
As you know, because you helped find this, Jacques Vallée admits to having a CIA document from 1985, flat out stating that the CIA was faking alien abductions in Brazil and Argentina for their, and I quote, psychological warfare value. Well, that's the same thing that was written and signed by the CIA director in 1953, General Smith, who was the CIA director then, when he said the UFO subject had great value for its, and I'm quoting from the document, it's in our archive, its psychological warfare value. (0:18:11)
So, it's a giant PSYOP. The crown jewel of the PSYOP and the deception is the use of these advanced technologies that we've reverse engineered and developed since way back, that are now operational, that would fool everyone that it's an alien or non-human intelligence craft, or being, when it isn't. So, that is, see, this is where I talk about basically what we're doing, it's pulling the curtain back on the Wizard of Oz, and behind that curtain is a bunch of crud-mudgems pulling levers, scaring the hell out of Dorothy and the Scarecrow, when in reality, that people are thinking it's all alien when it isn't. So, if the President, it's one thing for UFOlogy to think this, it's a very dangerous thing when this is on a fast track to disclosure this year and next, when you have the President and the Congress and whatever, the 20 million people listening to Joe Rogan, being deceived this way. (0:19:08)
So, this is something that needs to get resolved. I'm, you know, people say I'm a little too strong and confrontational about it, but I don't, I think people understood what was at stake here. They would realize that this is a five alarm fire, when you have someone with that kind of access, and frankly in space matters, in terms of how the current administration views him, the top of the pyramid for space, saying we don't have anything like this, that all these false events and all these false narratives have to be, all of them alien, because we don't have that ability to fly these objects like that and elude radar and go at 300,000 miles per hour and make a right hand turn. (0:20:00)
Sorry folks, we do. And guess what? That is one of the things that just came out, and we now can do it hardcover and softcover, is this. So, this just came out and it's illustrated history. It has 230 pages of not only crash retrievals, but new cases we have. (0:20:17)
And you can get it through our store and our website in a soft or hardcover or ebook, if you don't want to buy a physical copy, there's an ebook version. And the reason that's so important, it pretty much puts the rest, that not only have we had the crash retrievals, there have been about 125 of them that we can document, every one of the ones in here are ones that have named witnesses, all of them. (0:20:47)
Now, there are a few that are new ones that are whistleblowers who are just by initial, because we wanted to, they did not want to be known publicly. And so we said, okay, we're going to mask your full name until you're ready to come public. But you know who they are and you vouch for their credibility? Oh yeah. I've spent a lot of time with them, know them. (0:21:02)
Some of them we have brought over to the Senate Intelligence and Armed Services and to the Pentagon Aero Office. Some haven't because like one of them was about to go. You look at the incident with the crash retrieval up in the Northern Nevada test range. And we can open it to that and show people TE. He was on his way, we were getting his tickets and a van pulled up, SUV, black, pulled up and said, we're going to put you in prison for the rest of your life. (0:21:37)
And he had two young boys and they said, you'll never see your children again. So his wife stopped him from coming and giving official testimony. He was prepared to come forward, but the dirty tricks by these thugs and criminals stopped him. But yeah, we know who he is. He's a great guy, but you know, this is one of the problems that might be with the law enforcement in the United States is that that kind of witness intimidation and false entrapment are multiple felonies. And why are these people not being investigated and arrested? This is what I don't get. (0:22:10)
I mean, we'll talk about this in a little while, what we're trying to do to resolve that problem. So this is it. I don't know if you can see it. Yeah, it's a hard copy and soft. And is it now e-book also? So it's e-book also. So you can get it. Now these are being done sort of print on demand. So they're not particularly inexpensive, but it's the best we could do to get it out. (0:22:36)
But I will tell you, excuse me, that is redacted of sensitive names and some information, tactical information, that an executive order following up with a, let's say, a tactical team to go to these illegal black sites. So I think there are 150 some that are outlined in the book. And we know where they are, and they're on a map. (0:23:07)
You can see them. But there's tactical information about how you would go in there and get them under control, what technologies you need to use. That has been redacted because of these sensitive operational information. (0:23:19)
And certain names, some people's names who do not want to be identified have been notified to the President, his inner circle, and senior law enforcement. They have not been disclosed publicly because they've been asking not to. And so we honor that. Although sometimes we'll have someone hack into something and cause trouble by leaking a name. That just happened last week. But generally speaking, we don't do it. We try to honor everyone's request. (0:23:55)
What is the saying in the data world, garbage in, garbage out? You're not going to get anything out of a commission like that if it's populated with people who are actually clandestinely on the payroll of these covert and illegal programs. That is what has happened in every single commission since the Robertson panel of 1953 or 54. So I think the concern there is when you're not wanting something to really get exposed, you create a commission, and that's where you send it to die. Everyone in Washington knows that. (0:24:35)
I mean, that's what happened with the 9-11 Commission, the JFK Assassination Commission committee, on and on and on. You create those bureaucracies, populate them with people who are going to cherry pick the information, come out with an already predetermined conclusion. They are never honest, and they are never transparent. So I am extremely skeptical of that. I know people go, wow, you're kind of cynical. (0:25:06)
I said, no. I actually know inside and out the history of this going back 70 years. So when the Robertson panel, we have in our archive a CIA document that talks about the Robertson panel, and they had embedded a very renowned astronomer at Harvard, Dr. Donald Menzel, M-E-N-Z-E-L, look him up, to be on the panel to kill any conclusions counter to the cover-up conclusions, which is what they did. Surprise! (0:25:34)
Let's fast forward about 15 years to 1969 with the Condon committee. Professor Condon was a professor at the University of Colorado Boulder, and he, we have documents that now prove from the CIA, officially released to us after I briefed the CIA director in 93, that state that Professor Condon was on the payroll of the CIA, and was there to be sure the Condon committee, that was this academic, we're scientists, and we're going to be honest. (0:26:12)
No, they're not. They're scientists second. They're humans first, and they're fungible and corruptible. That's what happened with the Condon committee. Their conclusion? Close down Project Blue Book because there's nothing there to see. That's 1969. Look it up. I just give you a quick synopsis. That's a fact. I only deal with facts I can prove in a court or in a scientific setting. (0:26:34)
Now, you had the hearings from Gerald Ford after the imbroglio about the swamp gas in Michigan. Remember all that? That was also stacked. That hearing, and I think it was House Oversight, and Gerald Ford, who later became President Ford after Nixon resigned, really wanted to get to the bottom of it, but they stacked the people appearing before this congressman who knew nothing about the subject. This is the problem. (0:27:01)
And gas lit them, and again, it was, oh, well, there's nothing there. (0:27:04)
But this nonsense has been going on for 70 years. It's not going to happen that way. Now, part of the bill that got shot down in 2023, December, from the Senate, that did not come from Mr. Schumer, it came from the Senate Intelligence Committee unanimously because I had been working with them, and it had a provision for safe harbor or amnesty for these whistleblowers. (0:27:38)
That was taken out, as was the panel part. But what we need to look at is in the new... because I was at Senate Intelligence, folks, I think in October, and I said, well, is that amnesty or safe harbor legal protection going to be put back in? And they said, yes, we're working on that. (0:27:55)
So what I want to see is what actually makes it out of the Senate to the House, and if it can survive the reconciliation process, because last time it didn't, there were people in the House that killed it. It came out of the Senate overwhelmingly. It came out of the Senate Intelligence Committee unanimously. Unusual. So the question now is, I mean, I'm on the inside of that. (0:28:22)
So the question is whether or not we're going to have a clean witness protection amnesty safe harbor in there. But the idea of some panel, the problem, the last iteration of it had the president appointing these people, and then the Senate or somebody confirming that they'd be on the panel. Well, the politics of that are such that if there were nine people, I'd be stunned if there was one who was actually first knew anything about the issue. (0:28:55)
And secondly, wasn't corrupted already through some kind of corporate or intelligence agency connection. So this is why I think that is not the way to do it. The way to do it is what we've been saying. We need an executive order from the president to have law enforcement bring out all the evidence and material. We need protections from an executive order. (0:29:19)
And you need an open hearing in the Congress, not in a skiff, where there's subpoena power, but also a properly funded investigation, which does not exist yet in the House or the Senate, to have professional people drill down on the 760-some whistleblowers and all the other evidence we and other people have, and get to the bottom of it, and then have witnesses, testimonies provided through subpoena. (0:29:48)
Because some of the most important people who need to appear aren't going to do it voluntarily. They're going to have to be compelled to provide testimony. Now, to be honest with you, I'm saying the same thing to senior law enforcement. I can't say who or where or what, because it's sensitive. And in fact, I'm having meetings right coming up soon with the very senior folks about that. But I think you have to go in with no-knock warrants. (0:30:12)
You have to go in with subpoenas. You have to compel testimony. You have to compel people to produce documents and materiel and video, photographic, and even physical evidence. (0:30:23)
I mean, there's a way to do this that isn't some kind of delaying tactic through some bureaucratic panel that's going to be chock-full of, most likely, intelligence operatives. And it will be highly politically charged. So I think that that is unwise. And I think that... I don't know if Senator Schumer knows the history of these panels or not, but in the 10 minutes or so, I could tell him, hey, yo, look at this, look at this, look at this, look at this. (0:30:56)
Here's an important data point. Go into the witness files of the Disclosure Project Intelligence Archive, dpirchive.com. And in there is the testimony of Dr. Robert Woods, wonderful man, amazing guy. He was PhD, worked for McDonald Douglas. Old Man McDonald himself had him looking into UAP, UFO stuff back in the 60s. And he had hit pay dirt. And he was supposed to be on the Condon Committee in 1969 that I just talked about. (0:31:29)
In his testimony, he states that Professor Condon, because he knew Dr. Woods had dispositive proof and evidence, didn't want him on and wanted him kicked off. So he went to the McDonald, McDonald Douglas, the main guy at McDonald Douglas Aircraft that became merged with Boeing some years later, and said, that guy, Dr. Woods is not to be on this panel, but you are to fire him, get rid of him. (0:32:06)
He knows too much. So this was the head of the Condon Committee. Now this is the direct testimony of Dr. Woods, who worked closely with the chairman and head of McDonald Douglas Aerospace Aircraft. ... should, you know, we as your supporters out there, should we be lobbying to get people who you recommend appointed? Or is this just a complete waste of time and we should write it off before it even happens? Look, I will provide anything to any legitimate entity who claims they're trying to get to the bottom of it, right? I've done that for the Pentagon, I've done it for Aero, I've done it for House Oversight, Senate Armed Services, Senate Intelligence Committee, and I've been doing it since 1993. All right? So I will continue to always do that. (0:33:00)
I'm talking about the likelihood that a highly politicized panel would be uncorrupted and honest and would get to the truth. That I think there is no historical precedent for it. And in fact, there's every historical precedent for us to be deeply skeptical. And because of the filtering effect of such a panel, where they could have people in there, like Professor Condon, or Dr. Menzel back in the 50s, and cherry pick and kick stuff out. (0:33:23)
And what will actually be referred to that Congress and the President and American people will be, I think, mostly an empty sack of nothing. But I can't say that's the case. I mean, you know, maybe things would change. And maybe, you know, history won't continue to repeat itself. But I given who is out there, let me give you an example. (0:33:47)
Michael Gold, who testified at the the last time that the House had anybody up there a couple months ago. I had met with him, you know, a long time, several months earlier, back in 2024, I think in the summer, and at my condo in Washington. And I gave him the briefing materials. And he's worked in NASA. He works for an aerospace company. (0:34:18)
He had been part of Bigelow Aerospace with Bob Bigelow. And I told him, I said, and he had been on the UAP task force for NASA. And he told me, well, we closed that because we didn't find anything. I said, well, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. In my archive available to everyone who can read are hundreds of pages of government documents, and 115 top secret military and corporate and government testimony, radar tapes, everything in our archives. (0:34:50)
How could you be on that committee, the task force, UAP task force for NASA? No, that was clearly a whitewash and a wind addressing. And look, I'm going to call this stuff out. I don't care about, I'm not running for the mayor of crazy town ufology. I'm not looking for a political or government position. I don't care about fame or money. (0:35:15)
I don't care about any of it. I care about the truth and fixing this problem, right? So, but when that happens, and then you see the House Oversight Committee inviting people to give testimony who are either known disinformation people like Luis Elizondo or someone like Michael Gold, who purports to know nothing. When we provided on a silver platter, everything he would need to know. (0:35:40)
There's something not right here. There's something stinks in Denmark, bro. And I just am saying no, and this is my job, I feel, is even though it's not politic and it doesn't win me brownie points in the popularity contest, I don't care about that. I mean, I care about the truth coming out honestly, in a way that gives us a new civilization, universal peace here in space and on Earth, that we begin to contact officially as a people, the ETs, and stop killing them and shooting them down. (0:36:12)
And that the energy technologies come out, like we outlined in the Lost Century, which by the way, now everyone can see on Tubi for free, and get that information and technology out that can transform the world in poverty and fix the biosphere indefinitely through these free energy zero point type technologies. Now, I've said, of course, many times, the things that fly that are man-made UFOs, those really are easily converted to a weapon delivery system. (0:36:47)
And those have to be held back for some time until the geopolitical situation indicates we're halfway civilized as a people. And we ain't there yet. If you doubt it, go look at what's going on in the meat grinder in Ukraine, Russia, the Middle East, Hamas, Israel, on and on all over the world. I mean, this is humanity because we've been held back for 100 years from our evolution. (0:37:12)
Because remember, if these technologies had come out 100 years ago, that's why we call it the Lost Century, we would have had no need to be invading other people's land for rare earth minerals or oil or anything else. Because you would have had a totally different economy and technology. And we could have had an abundant, peaceful, and a just civilization where there could have been global peace, where we reach what Michikaku calls a level one civilization. (0:37:44)
And that could have happened before I was born in 1955. I mean, in June, I turned 70. So you think almost most of my life, we could have lived in a very different world. And when we do, then we could have peace. Because when there's justice, and when there's elimination of the have and have not conundrum, and the Malthusian crisis that goes with it, then there's a chance you can establish peace on the planet. (0:38:09)
And in that peace, you can have this transformed situation, where then everyone could have a vehicle that floats and goes, you don't need surface roads anymore. But that's going to be a while because the world is an armed camp of everyone at each other's throats in this tribal war between different identity groups around the world, whether it be religious, political, racial, gender, whatever it is, it's this endless conflict. (0:38:32)
Until that gets resolved, excuse me, part of the resolution of that is the whole reason our motto is one universe, one people, is that if we recognize that our consciousness and our higher conscious being is a singularity of the mind, and then we realize that not only are all of us one, but on that deep level, go beyond the skin deep, and the intellect, and the divisions, but also the ETs, these non-human life forms are also conscious and sentient. (0:39:08)
And that is the foundation, that is the universal meeting place, is that non-local unbounded aspect of consciousness, which is the heart and soul of what we're doing. But certainly humanity isn't there yet, it's also armed camp. So, some of these technologies are going to have to be held back for some years until that gets resolved. (0:39:31)
But we can certainly have things that would be sitting on this table here, running this house with free energy and no pollution, or in the hood of your car. You're like Floyd Sweethead, you know, remember that part where Sparky, Floyd Sweethead, something a little bit bigger than a cigarette pack, that would provide enough energy to drive a 300 horsepower motor. (0:39:53)
This was 40 years ago in the 80s. So, you know, and that car would never have to be plugged in, like the modern battery cars, which are really just souped up golf carts that plug into the fossil fuel power grid, let's face it. I mean, they're really, I mean, they look cool, they're fun to drive, and they're quiet, but it's not a solution, because their energy that's charging those lithium ion batteries is coming from coal, gas, all kinds of nuclear, you know, except for maybe 12% that's renewable. (0:40:22)
And most of that's hydroelectric on dams that we're never going to build something like that again, because they did so much environmental damage to create the huge dams. So, you know, the real solution is this technology, energy part of it. But with that changes, then, you know, this big oligarch totalitarian stakeholders go, oops, there went $800 trillion of our assets, right? (0:40:45)
That's right. I've spoken to Travis Swarton about this. And when that film came out, I was appalled, because the story he shared personally was not what was portrayed in the movie. So, lesson number one, Hollywood is always going to ruin a true story and turn it into a horror flick, because they think that's going to sell more tickets. The film actually bombed, because it was just because of this. (0:41:15)
What actually happened, I think probably was E.T. He and a buddy or a couple buddies came across this object up in New Mexico in the forest. I think they're snowflake. And it was damp, they went in and there was an electrostatic discharge that inadvertently went from the craft to him, knocked him back. It was not a death ray, it was an inadvertent. (0:41:41)
If you understand how much gigawatts of power those craft generate, it's huge. And so, I think it was an accidental discharge, like a lightning strike that hit him. The E.Ts took him on board on the equivalent of what sounds like an interstellar ICU. And as an emergency doctor, as soon as I heard what they did, and how long they kept him, is what we would do if somebody had been electrocuted and their heart had stopped, and you wanted to save them. (0:42:10)
So, I think it was an accident the E.T. saved him, and after he was stabilized, they returned him back near where he came from. Now, when he was on the ship, what he told me was that initially when he came to, he was freaked out and was trying to attack the E.Ts, not the other way around. (0:42:29)
The movie showed the E.Ts drilling into none of that happened. That was all Tracy Torme, I confronted him in Creston, Colorado, in, I think, 93 about this. And I said, wait, that's not what this story is. I know Travis Hall. But then, later, the E.Ts let him sit at, they went to a larger ship, and he was on it, and they let him sit in like a pilot's chair and sort of navigate with touching and thinking to have the craft go places. (0:43:05)
It was a beautiful story of them sort of like being very gentle with him once he calmed down, and then he was returned. Now, that's the story he told me from the horse's mouth. Now, what ends up getting embellished and told in the Hollywood stories, this is why I'm so skeptical about these things that come out through the UFO subculture, conferences, movies, books, because I do the original research with the people who were actually there, right? So, I don't Google this stuff. (0:43:38)
But I have never seen a case that is actually ever honestly portrayed by the Hollywood and the media once they get their grubby little hands on it, because usually there's an agenda to spin it in some direction, and they're often paid to do it. Now, what Tracy Torme told me was that he was told by the studio that he needed to make it scarier and more like a horror science fiction film to make it pop financially. Instead, because it actually didn't ring true, and it was so scary, it bombed. (0:44:13)
I think something that could have been a true to life, close encounters of the third kind, like the Spielberg movie in the 70s, late 70s, it could have been a huge hit. But you know, you send something to Hollywood to destroy it. I mean, I hate to say it, but learning from the people who are directly involved, who are direct first-hand operators at covert sites, and in the aerospace world that I have debriefed for 35 years. (0:44:42)
So, you know, it's not like I'm dredging fourth-hand junk up off the internet and come up with an opinion worth nothing. I hate to say this, I'm not trying to be bombastic. So, I push back on that. No, it's based on the fact that I have debriefed pushing a thousand guys and women, many of whom have been involved at the upper end of those programs, none of them. (0:45:10)
Now, have we gone to the moon and Mars? Yes. Did that ARV that you see that was at Norton Air Force Base, you can put that up, that was in the hangar, the three of them, did those go around our solar system? Yes, before we landed on the moon. But do we have a program going out interstellar, intergalactic? No, because the ETs aren't going to allow that until we become nominally civilized. (0:45:37)
Now, it makes for a very good space cowboy movie to have a rogue group of humans working with these evil aliens and then the good ones. It's great for Star Wars and Independence Day and selling tickets to UFO conferences, books and videos. And if I had any evidence of that, I would change what I'm saying. (0:46:01)
But I have never met a single person, no matter how high up in that organization or how operational, on boots on the ground, who say any such thing, number one. (0:46:08)
Number two, the other part of it is that, and this needs, it's implied in much of what I've said over the years, but I need to be more explicit. And that's my failure. I have never debriefed an operator who had been on retrieval teams dealing with the ETs that have ever encountered a hostile or violent one. (0:46:36)
They've never picked up a reptilian. Now, there are people I know who have been at facilities where man-made fake aliens, so-called program life forms, that look really scary. But those are human-made. But the ones who picked up, let's call them actual non-human ETs from other star systems, none of them look like that and none of them behave like that. Now, I would think that if, given the depth and the breadth of the people I have debriefed, if any of this mythology were true, at least a couple of them would have, in fact, seen and have that information. (0:47:14)
Now, whether, I mean, you look at what Jake Barber said about the beautiful connection he had with an ET that was in one of these craft. Sergeant Clifford Stone recounted the same experience. The witness that's in this new Illustrated, Disclosure Illustrated book that I did with Michael Schratt, that has TE, I referred to him earlier. (0:47:40)
He had this direct encounter with these two ETs from the ship they had downed that hadn't been damaged. And he said they were the most beautiful. I have not talked to a single... And let me add one more data point. I have been head of a CE-5 contact operation since 1990. This is the 35-year anniversary. Thousands and thousands of hours at hundreds of venues where we've had real contact and events happen and where we've had ETs come right into the area and none of them have looked like that and none of them have harmed us. (0:48:12)
We have had some nasty things unleashed on us from covert human operations when they thought they could deceive us, but we've never had that. So that is a scientific research data point. So you're going out there, you're inviting contact and all the contact for 35 years involving thousands of events and thousands of people across multiple continents, none of them have looked like that and no one has ever been harmed. (0:48:49)
So now I will take all of what I just said in terms of first-hand direct whistleblowers, people on retrieval teams, our collective experience as a group doing CE-5 globally for 35 years over the mythology that sells movies and tickets and books for people who want to have the bejeebies scared out of them. One of the problems is again, if you don't do the first-hand direct research and this was so intuitive to me as a young doctor in the 90s, I thought, well, wait, you have these people who claim to be experts in the UFO subject, but then they'll brag, well, I've never seen one or I've never had contact and somehow that makes them objective. (0:49:39)
No, would you go to a cardiologist that's actually never seen a heart? Would you go to a neurosurgeon who's never seen a brain? Would you see a dermatologist who doesn't know what skin is? Why are you an expert? I'm going to call this out and you haven't gone out in the field and done the direct work to observe, make contact, you know what you're talking about. (0:50:02)
You're not an expert. You're getting stuff from what? Second, third, fourth, fifth hand? That an expert doesn't make. So, I want to be very clear on this, that this is why the CE5 contact operation and protocols, we're recommending it be officially done by governments. (0:50:17)
France almost did it. They did a one weekend thing with us back years ago in 2010 or 11 or something. It's in the archive, the Ministry of Defense of France. But no country has ever done a sustained effort for peaceful contact. Now, we have plenty of evidence that there are operations used to target and shoot down ET craft, military operations that are more military driven and materiel driven to get the technology to reverse engineer, etc. (0:50:49)
But in terms of doing what we're talking about, I think that needs to be the model. Once disclosure happens, if it's not this scary false one that stampedes the world into Armageddon, then we pivot to, all right, let the countries of the world develop a means to make contact peacefully and see if we can reach out to these civilizations in a cooperative manner for both Earth and space. (0:51:20)
But that hasn't happened. If it did happen, there's a very scant record of it in the 50s during the Eisenhower era where there could have been an outreach like that that went sideways. What I understand is that, and I can't prove this, is that there was a meeting between Eisenhower and ETs out in the desert near Muroc, where Edwards Air Force Base is now, and that they really wanted us to cooperate with them and get rid of these nuclear weapons and become peaceful. (0:51:54)
The warmongers around Eisenhower said, no way. Eisenhower was inclined to say yes, and that's why they separated the president from those operations in the late 50s. And to my knowledge, this is why it's been dysfunctional ever since. Because the war profiteers, the warmongers, the sociopaths, the people who want to control the technology, those people surpassed control access, let's call it, from the president and the Congress, and it's gone sideways for almost around 65 years now. (0:52:28)
And by the way, that was why Kennedy was killed, because he was determined to get control of this. He fired Allen Dulles, CIA director who helped found the CIA. And my understanding is that they went, oh, no, you're not going to do this. And in November of 63, of course, everybody knows he was killed. My understanding is that the truth about that assassination is very directly connected to him trying to get back under control of these UAP UFO programs. The first question, is it real? (0:53:00)
I don't know. I don't have the provenance for it. The second question is, yes, because that capability, I think it's an Einstein-Rosen bridge is what they're doing, if you want to look that up. And we have a scientist on our team who's worked at very senior NSA and corporate level who has said it is real, and it was an Einstein-Rosen bridge, and it was man-made, and it was a test. (0:53:29)
Now, I don't know if that's true, because again, the actual footage itself, I always say, well, what's the provenance of it? Where did it come from? Who had it? And honestly, I don't have that information, and I don't have anyone on my team who has a direct access to the origins of that footage. (0:53:57)
Now, maybe this gentleman you mentioned does, or maybe someone he knows does, I don't know. But the people I think do have some good information, what it portrays is something that we absolutely can do. And remember, during the drone stuff, you know, where there were obviously just drones with motors, and then there were orbs, and 100% of that was man-made. None of that was alien. (0:54:20)
And it was sort of a testing of this false flag, and to what extent the media, and the Congress, and the hysteria, and the circus all around it. (0:54:25)
As for that MH flight, all I can say is it obviously went missing. Someone has said this is real footage. Now, let's just say I don't know if it is, but if it is, I've had people look at it and say, oh yeah, we have that capability for sure. Well, my understanding is that there are ancient structures and remnants of an ancient presence on Mars and the Moon, but there are also more recent structures that are the result of the fact, going back now, to that we have had electrogravitic and the ability to move very quickly without a rocket into our, through our solar system since the mid-1950s, that there very well could be assets. (0:55:21)
I know there are on the Moon. So, we know that from Carl Wolff, some of them were very ancient, but there were some new looking structures. I don't think those new ones are ET. I think those new ones are human, which would make sense if you have that capability. Now, one of our witnesses also knew a Navy SEAL who has not come forward, who was part of a team, and he would call a hyperjump for two weeks at a time to a facility on the Moon. And so, you know, I've heard those sort of accounts. (0:55:53)
It would make sense that we would, since we have the technology, that this covert clandestine group would do that. But I think when you look at those images, the ancient ones often get mixed up with the newer ones. I think the newer ones are not extraterrestrial. I think the newer ones are most likely human. (0:56:15)
I do know that out by the rings of Saturn that both a senior executive with Lockheed Martin at the headquarters out there outside DC in Maryland called me up back when the Cassini probe was going out, and they were the prime contractors and they filtered out before NASA saw them this footage of a massive extraterrestrial floating base. It was out by the rings. It wasn't, you know, there in the planet. That was huge. (0:56:45)
It sounded like it was many miles across. I also have a member of my team who had been at NORAD and there was a console 50 that was used to track the deep space network, and they had tracked a massive extraterrestrial base. You could say it's a crap, but my understanding is a huge base many, many miles across. (0:57:13)
One of them indicated something on the order of several hundred miles across, like a small moon that had craft within it, and that was out by Saturn also. And then the final data point was that the top scientists at the Naval Research Labs was friends with a four-star general who had come out of a briefing where he had been shown these same images and he was white as a ghost. (0:57:43)
And the head of the Naval Research Labs, Rick Foch, was the highest scientist there. He was not the director of the lab. He would be like the third down, but he was the top scientist there. He said absolutely that that is real and that this four-star general confirmed that to him. (0:58:00)
He didn't see it, but the four-star did. So yeah, I mean, there are these sort of ETF assets. They're very large. That's why back in 92, I turned to General Stubblebine when he was first trying to buy me off with two billion dollars and then threaten me. (0:58:14)
I said, look, you have your plan and there's another plan. There's a divine plan. There's an interstellar plan. And I'll tell you, when the day is done, which one's going to prevail? And it won't be yours. I mean, you know how I am, Michael. I just said right to his face. Oh, yeah, we've met. Yeah, we've met. (0:58:38)
So, you know, yeah, that's not a myth. I've had three very reliable, probably a very senior executive at Lockheed Martin, this scientist at Naval Research Labs, right? And a military advisor for years who had been in the compartmented console area where they were doing deep space network monitoring out of Cheyenne Mountain for NORAD in Colorado Springs, who also had it confirmed to him that on that console, that was... by the way, that area was so sensitive that at the outside wall of it, if someone even leaned on that wall, guards with M-16s and attack German Shepherds would come out. (0:59:17)
And these are people cleared to be in NORAD. So, it was a very tightly held area. And we have a man on our team who was in there and saw that. I know that back years ago, early 2000s, I look up the date, there was a massive subduction earthquake and tsunami that killed a quarter of a million people in Indonesia and all that area. (0:59:36)
I may have been 04, somewhere around there. And I had a man who was on a contract vessel for the National Security Agency at a covert government operation that went down there and they basically detonated a type of a directional energy weapon over that subduction zone to see if it would trigger it. (1:00:06)
And this man, very legit, said that's what they did. We know that Eric Hecker, who was a Raytheon gentleman who was at our National Press Club event in June of 2023, he was at the South Pole where the Raytheon had a mile under the ice, this big neutrino light array. And it's not just sensing passively, it's an active warfare system that when they switched that on, it caused... he is pretty sure they felt all the massive earthquakes in Christchurch in New Zealand that were so devastating. (1:00:39)
So we have our Colonel Heckert. Back when they were, before they had those electromagnetic weapons, he knew of the fact that they had what they called nuclear torpedoes that had been placed on the earthquake faults in various places around the world that could be detonated and then trigger a massive earthquake and a subsequent tsunami to wipe out the coastlines. He knew specifically about that, knows specifically about it. (1:01:04)
So this is why I tell people all the five alarm fires that people think are important with Ukraine and Israel, Taiwan, China, they're important, but this organization that have these capabilities, if they are not put on a leash and those capabilities taken out of their hands, it's a much bigger threat to the United States, but also to the earth than anything that the National Security Council is looking at right now. (1:01:37)
So this is why, and I've known this since the 90s. The other data point is one of the operators at this black site, a couple of the black sites out west, who came under cover to that conference in June of 1920, June of 2024. He pulled me aside one evening and we had a meeting in the green room where I was, and he said, you know, I was read into an operation that we had used these technologies to grab an asteroid and move it in the direction like it's coming from the sun. (1:02:17)
And so that it would not hit the earth, that it would skim low over the Atlantic and Pacific oceans to cause massive tsunamis wiping out all the coastlines. And that was going on. It was coming in. And the ETs, he said, moved in and took it out and protected us. So interesting, you know, I almost feel like I'm like a one-man anti-defamation league for the ETs, but they have saved our bacon more ways than people realize. (1:02:43)
And this man knows this. He knows this for a fact. Now, he didn't know I knew this. I said, oh yeah, I was read into this years ago by someone who was operational with those technologies. (1:02:54)
So you have a bunch of psychopaths and sociopaths who have these technologies who want to create panic, fear, maybe population decrease, but also want to create the ability to set up a series of events, both what are fake alien, but these man-made induced natural things, so that they could seize control of the through a sort of a global martial law state and military state. That has always been the plan of these guys. (1:03:29)
These guys are power hungry, sociopaths, but they have technologies that I'm quite sure if the president and people in Congress knew what they had and what they've done already and what they plan to do, everything else would look like a skirmish and they would focus on this. But I'm not trying to scare people. (1:03:47)
I just am telling you what I know to be a fact from multiple data points. It's two sides of a coin. You have the people who are very religious, but who believe like Prince Hans-Adolf Lichtenstein did, that we had to create Armageddon so Christ would return, right? There's a whole section of those. And then the flip side of that same coin are the people who are like really love the idea of evil, death, destruction, torture, everything, if you want to call it evil, just satanic, whatever, who literally are involved with that and who love that. (1:04:27)
And I've met both from both ends of the spectrum. Now, this is not to say that everyone who's a very conservative religious person buys into that and wants that. I'm talking about an extremist group that is part of that organization. Because remember, this organization is like a whole constellation of people working because they have a common objective. (1:04:53)
That's one extreme. The other would be global macroeconomic energy control. The other one is the military industrial, you know, profiteering complex. They're all in and some of them wear multiple hats, right? But ultimately, it's yeah, it's a very messed up situation. And I have met people from those, let's call it factions. And they're pretty spooky people. (1:05:26)
And unfortunately, a lot of people, you know, you can be kind of hoodwinked on this. Because what I call the folks on the more evil end of weird stuff and stranger things, I call it electromagnetic black magic. They have technologies that can conjure up and we're not talking some weird satanic ritual, except that it may bring into this dimension some really scary stuff. But it's being done through a high tech system, where they can tap into a lower dimension. (1:05:53)
And this is why I always point when I go to a meeting, I go, you have three things going on here. The actual ET, the actual man-made, and then the extra dimensional or inner dimensional that can be confused with both. And a subset of the inner dimensional or extra dimensional are the ones that are induced through humans, through these very, very high tech systems. (1:06:19)
So there's more than one scientist I've met with, where when they hit a certain frequency in the electromagnetic and resonance, it can pop out of another dimension, an object or a being that comes into 3D and not a hologram physically, runs around the lap. (1:06:40)
Now I've heard this, these are like the stories of Montauk back in the day that got spun into a, I never saw any of the episodes, something called a stranger things, I guess it was on Netflix. You know, and so this capability must certainly exist. And some of those folks, you know, it's like you have innate remote viewing capabilities in the CIA with Russell Targ and McMonaghan, all those folks, right? But then you have something above where they were operating that are the electronic assist systems for consciousness that are human based on studying the ET systems back in the 40s and 50s. And we could do a whole show on just that, it's fascinating. (1:07:23)
But so they have a corollary here with inter and extra dimensional weird things like at the Skinwalker Ranch or the Bradshaw Ranch or stranger things sort of Montauk, but where there's an innate say bizarre phenomenon that happened that's not extraterrestrial, it's extra dimensional. But that can also be induced through these very advanced physics and electromagnetic sciences, scientific systems that can, and some of that I think was accidentally discovered. I know a man down near the Marshall Space Flight Center in the Redstone arsenal who accidentally did that. (1:08:10)
He just hit a certain frequency because he was working on this under contract from the CIA, from IT&T, and boom pops with stuff would disappear, pop right into this dimension. Weird stuff, okay? This is why at the agency they call it WSFM, weird science and freaking magic. And when I talked to an engineer at Northrop Grumman once, he said well we just call it PFM, pure fucking magic. (1:08:35)
He said literally that's what we call it. So there's a whole spectrum, everyone thinks of a man-made clunky UFO, but boy there's a lot of things on that spectrum that's in their little dark little basket of secrets technologically that we could do multiple shows on that I've been read into and have met people who have been operational or have been the principal investigators and scientists who've dealt with this. (1:08:58)
I mean it's fascinating, it's spooky, but it's very very fascinating. Let's go back to the Disclosure Project Archive circa 2000 when I interviewed a gentleman, Fred Threadfell, who had been at an Air Force base in Canada operated by U.S. where they had mastered in 53 the teleportation of asteroids, everybody smoked after World War II, asteroids that would go from point A to point B instantly. (1:09:33)
A big object reliably from one point of the base to the other and he saw this. I know that's true. Now most people go what? I say yeah that was 72 years ago. So now when you start getting into this area of science and physics and electromagnetism, you very quickly get into a world of very strange things in WSFM and one of the big problems with UFO research is that when you're evaluating some phenomena you've got to have in your knowledge this whole spectrum. (1:10:11)
Man-made, ET, innate, extra-dimensional and then augmented, let's say, induced things from other dimensions that are human. All of that has to be in your, as we say in medicine, your differential diagnosis. It's like you have chest pain. What is it, right? Or I just had this abdominal thing. You have a abdominal, well, is it, you know, something you ate or is it, you know, a gallbladder or is it, you know, a virus or is it you had some bad water that had Giardia in it or it's, you know, something with your intestine, a blockage or is it, I mean, there's like a hundred things in your differential diagnosis. (1:10:51)
But what happens with the UFO subject, everything is alien, right? Anything goes bump in the night and this is not helpful because the intelligence community operatives are so smart. They know how to mix all this together and confuse people. It's the art of deception and what we have to do is, this has got to be childhood's end because I think all this is going to come out in the next year or two. (1:11:22)
We have to begin to unpack all of it and the part that is extraterrestrial, get clarity on. The part that's man-made, get clarity on. Weird things from other dimensions, we need to get clarity on. Like there's a member, somebody I know who was recently on a show talking about the Bradshaw Ranch near Sedona, talking about that was a secret alien base. (1:11:38)
No, it's not. I've had people on my team get very close to it and see guys dressed all in black with machine guns guarding down below the hill where it's a black site. It's a U.S. or transnational corrupt organization, black site, right? Skinwalker got taken over those elements with Bigelow and Colonel Alexander long before the current owner and they set up all kinds of weird stuff there. (1:12:12)
So, you either understand this or you don't, but I'm trying to put enough information out to the public so they're not continually misdirected and deceived through the magic trick. Because look, when you've got the kind of technologies these guys have in these covert and illegally run programs, boy, it is easy to fool people. They can fool CE5 contact people, can fool government people. (1:12:37)
Certainly the general media and your average bear who's in the Congress or Senate or White House, very easily deceived.
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(2025-04-19)